Bogner in a box?

[Gr8Scott]

Does anyone make a pedal that will get viciously nasty heavy distortion. I'm talking modded JCM-800 to Bogner Uberschall and still sound tubey? It would have to have a very good bass and mid controls to reign in out of control bass and crank the mids when wanted. Anything like that out there? I want all the distortion to come from the pedal itself and I'd like for it to be analog and not digital if possible. Any shaggy beasts like that lurking beneath the shadows?

 

[Rushfan2112]

Re: Bogner in a box?

This new fulltone product sounds promising: http://fulltone.com/cshframe.html . No word on a release date, though.

 

[wildstar]

Re: Bogner in a box?

Yes yes yes!

THIS!

I just sold mine, otherwise I'd be trying to pimp it on you. It was very very hard to part with it. I just don't think I'm man enough for it.

It is exactly what you describe. It is a monster. It will break you. It will hurt you. And you will like it.

 

[DankStar]

Re: Bogner in a box?

There's a DIY dual rectifier emulator called Dr. Boogey that reportedly performs like you say, using a number of lil' JFET amps instead of preamp tubes. You'd have to search over at www.diystompboxes.com. I know that doesn't exactly help your cause, but it nonetheless popped in my mind.

What about a rack preamp with a bunch a 12AX7s, like the Peavey Rockmaster preamp?

I'd be curious to see the guts of Krank's distortion pedal. Word on the street is, it's pretty good.

 

[B2D]

Re: Bogner in a box?

http://www.g2d.co.nz/products.php?Action=Details&ProductID=4

Probably the best high gain pedal I've ever heard.

 

[ErikH]

Re: Bogner in a box?

+1 on the Dr. Boogey. Great circuit. One of the guys that built it at the DIY forum (www.diystompboxes.com) just posted some clip recently of it with half gain and full gain settings. It's a monster sounding pedal. Loads of gain.

 

[castiron]

Re: Bogner in a box?

that krank pedal?

 

[PUCKBOY99]

Re: Bogner in a box?

This new fulltone product sounds promising: http://fulltone.com/cshframe.html . No word on a release date, though.

OOOOHHHHH.....YUMMY !!! :32:

 

[Gearjoneser]

Re: Bogner in a box?

I haven't tried these, so I can't vouch for any, but here's some ideas.

 

[Nightburst]

Re: Bogner in a box?

Rocktron Silver Dragon

 

[Gr8Scott]

Re: Bogner in a box?

Some nice pedals there folks. Loved the soundclip of the morpheus. That's one seriously evil toy and I'm leaning heavily that way. Given that I don't know that much about the products shown, I'm going to need to hear examples when possible. :blindfold That's the best way to get what I'm looking for pedalwise. I wanted serious hair and it looks like you folks have delivered.

Thanks to all who have posted for the help.:bigthumb: :usa2:

 

[Gr8Scott]

Re: Bogner in a box?

Ya know, I've been thinking that I need to give my old Fab-tone another listen to on the Edana. It needs a fair shot with the new speakers. Last time I ran it through the Sovtek it was very impressive, but it just didn't sound right through the Edana with the old cab (the speakers weren't british voiced). The new cab might have changed the EQ enough to sound hawt with the ole Fab-tone again.

 

[Vasshu the humanoid typhoon]

Re: Bogner in a box?

Dunno if this one suits you??
I just posted a clip of the Crushzone, but I have no idea if you like or not, it was through the big Hiwatt +200 watts
https://forum.seymourduncan.com/showthread.php?p=961560#post961560
Sorry for spammy reply by the way....not something I like much, just trying to help.
Niels
If you can locate anything by AMT, you could get some very cool highgainers.

 

[Gr8Scott]

Re: Bogner in a box?

Not spammy. You're helping me find what I want. All replies welcome. Nothing too "spammy" for me.

The crushzone is very good. It's definitely JCM-800 to modded 800 in a box. It's something I will definitely consider down the road. It isn't the shaggy beast I'm looking for at the moment, but it does cover the older metal tones I love from my past very well. I'll file that one to memory for later.

 

[Vasshu the humanoid typhoon]

Re: Bogner in a box?

Ok thanks
Then AMT make some very cool highgainers.

 

[Farkus]

Re: Bogner in a box?

Dunno if this one suits you??
I just posted a clip of the Crushzone, but I have no idea if you like or not, it was through the big Hiwatt +200 watts
https://forum.seymourduncan.com/showthread.php?p=961560#post961560
Sorry for spammy reply by the way....not something I like much, just trying to help.
Niels
If you can locate anything by AMT, you could get some very cool highgainers.

Sorry to Hijack but...

Wow-that Crushzone sounds amazing...what is the delay unit you're using in that clip?

To the thread author: Are you trying to get into dual rec territory? What will you be playing the unit in question through?

 

[Mephis]

Re: Bogner in a box?

Dunno if this one suits you??
I just posted a clip of the Crushzone, but I have no idea if you like or not, it was through the big Hiwatt +200 watts
https://forum.seymourduncan.com/showthread.php?p=961560#post961560
Sorry for spammy reply by the way....not something I like much, just trying to help.
Niels
If you can locate anything by AMT, you could get some very cool highgainers.

That sounds amazing!

 

[Gr8Scott]

Re: Bogner in a box?

Sorry to Hijack but...

Wow-that Crushzone sounds amazing...what is the delay unit you're using in that clip?

To the thread author: Are you trying to get into dual rec territory? What will you be playing the unit in question through?

JTM-45 head equipped with an open back 2x12 cab and G12H30 speakers. Basically a bluesbreaker.

I don't want it to sound like a dual or triple rec. I'm not looking for mesa sounds at all really. I want lots of hair on this beast and to me the Mesa's don't sound quite as hairy as something like the morpheus does. The morpheus is where I'm leaning now. It's got lots of shaggy hair etc. My only gripe is the lack of a bass control. Doesn't seem like it needs one much necessarily and I can always add an EQ if I must. The soundclip of it running through a clean fender is absolutely insane. Imagine being able to run the gamut of guitar sounds from clean JTM-45 (basically a crunchier bassman design) to smokey-bluesy tubescreamer breakup (arion tubulator), to crunch (SFX-03 rythem channel), to sizzling Boogie Mk II (SFX-03 lead channel) to scorch the earth distortion (morpheus?). That's what I'm shooting for.

BTW - I agree with you on Rid's Crushzone. It's an awesome sounding pedal and is something I might want to consider as a future purchase.

 

[Vasshu the humanoid typhoon]

Re: Bogner in a box?

It is not "my" Crushzone, it is made by one of the other guys, he is a wizard with tubeamps as well
Essentially is has two effects inside, a treblebooster and a distortionlike clipstage, with the right amp and guitar, this can go from acid Gilmour to newer stuff, anyways the delay is a Delayla XL, but it is modded to be like the new upcoming Echotone in sound, mine has less time on hand though, 1 sec instead of 1.6 or 1.7 secs, plus the Echotone will be alittle more fat sounding.
Hey Gr8Scott have a looksee here
http://www.pedalgeek.com/cgi-bin/new_shop.cgi?config=&uid=VO5PpQAA1151218706&uzc=&command=link--amt
Hear the California and Du Hast

 

[Gr8Scott]

Re: Bogner in a box?

Rid - LOTS of cool stuff on that page. The one thing I would really like to have heard more samples from was their Dist Machine DM-3 clips. I think the design is nice, but want to hear just how heavy it can go. It didn't get quite wild enough for me in the clips. Sounded great, but a little too mainstream. It would make a nice addition to cover some middle ground on my pedalboard though. It would be nice to have four different dist pedals in one box and all of them with their own bass/treble/gain/volume settings.

I hate the name, but love the sound of the Metalizer. It has the right mix of hair and balls without having too much bottom end.

The one major complaint I have against these pedals is the cab simulator never shuts off even in bypass. If it weren't for that, they would be perfect. I'd have to buy a relay in an altoids box from a forum member to bypass the AMT pedals to get rid of the cab simulator. Is there a switch to get rid of the cab simulator?