Boss Metal Zone: From love to hate... to love again?

Re: Boss Metal Zone: From love to hate... to love again?

I use it all the time with my 15w 1x10 Crate tube amp.

IMO, its far more usable than my stock DS-1.

It turns the thing into a METAL MONSTER. The compression it gives is really awesome when I feel like getting sloppy. :D
 
Re: Boss Metal Zone: From love to hate... to love again?

To me it's just the front end of a budget level Crate or Peavey solid state amp. The EQ, while extremely powerful, is not user friendly. The parametric mid is either a win or lose adjustment, within millimeters one way or the other. It's hard to stop it from being piercing without killing off all the presence.

The distortion is extremely hyperactive, and it makes the pedal kind of addicting. You want to play through it, even though you know it's not a good, professional live sound. It's like candy that way. But not even ear candy, more like finger candy, because the notes rip off the guitar into total saturation. You can always tell what a pedal is doing by riding the gain knob to 0 and going up from there. The MZ is nothing but square wave chainsaw, and it can't clean up under lower gain or volume knob adjustments, because it is simply morphing your sound into a chainsaw.

It's like playing with the wah half way, and then trying to get the treble down at the amp. There's just no way you're going to make it sound like the wah is off. Or take a guitar with pickups out of phase. You can turn the bass up, boost the lower mids, but it's never going to sound like they're in phase. The MZ is the same way. It just distorts in this one-dimensional way. Not entirely unusable, but definitely in my book, it's ear candy for the "kids" and special fx noises for the brave/experimental/avante guard, but never a valid professional tone machine for the live or recording "main" guitar sound.

IMHO
 
Re: Boss Metal Zone: From love to hate... to love again?

To me it's just the front end of a budget level Crate or Peavey solid state amp. The EQ, while extremely powerful, is not user friendly. The parametric mid is either a win or lose adjustment, within millimeters one way or the other. It's hard to stop it from being piercing without killing off all the presence.

The distortion is extremely hyperactive, and it makes the pedal kind of addicting. You want to play through it, even though you know it's not a good, professional live sound. It's like candy that way. But not even ear candy, more like finger candy, because the notes rip off the guitar into total saturation. You can always tell what a pedal is doing by riding the gain knob to 0 and going up from there. The MZ is nothing but square wave chainsaw, and it can't clean up under lower gain or volume knob adjustments, because it is simply morphing your sound into a chainsaw.

It's like playing with the wah half way, and then trying to get the treble down at the amp. There's just no way you're going to make it sound like the wah is off. Or take a guitar with pickups out of phase. You can turn the bass up, boost the lower mids, but it's never going to sound like they're in phase. The MZ is the same way. It just distorts in this one-dimensional way. Not entirely unusable, but definitely in my book, it's ear candy for the "kids" and special fx noises for the brave/experimental/avante guard, but never a valid professional tone machine for the live or recording "main" guitar sound.

IMHO

Yeah, it' doesn't respond well to adjustment or anything and I wouldn't use it all the time (probably wouldn't own one if I didn't get it for free), but it gets a bad rap I think. It's good at what it does.
 
Re: Boss Metal Zone: From love to hate... to love again?

It's good at what it does.
You said it brother !

You won't hear much jazz players bitch about the lack of a good clean channel on the Peavey 5150, that's simply not what it's for. :) Some things are just one trick ponies while other things can do a lot of things half assed. Things that do a lot of things really good are rare.
 
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The way to achieve a more usable tone with the Metal Zone is to keep the gain knob on the left half (I keep mine at 0), and keep all of the tone knobs close to the center. Sometimes, the "everything at 10:30" setting is perfect for me. It gives a moderate cut of all of the harshest frequencies plus "moderate" distortion. And if you want to use your Metal Zone as a "fixed wah", turn the gain, bass, and treble all the way down, the Mid Level all the way up, and sweep with the Mid Freq knob.
 
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Here is my own demo of the Boss Metal zone

 
Re: Boss Metal Zone: From love to hate... to love again?

I don't think I'll ever fall in "love" with it again but I've heard good music made with it from a few folks. I think it's much better (or can be) than what its online reputation makes it to be.
 
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I've said it before, I'll say it again: Keeley modded MT-2 rules.
 
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Haha, this is amazing. I can't believe somebody dug out a 8 years old thread... by me! Kinda like looking at an old picture.
Well, 8 years later I can say the MT-2 gets quite good with mods.

I had one with the "Diezel" mod here and it sounded great:



Punchier lows and low mids, crunchy high mids that the stock pedal lacks, and rounder highs.
It also lowered the gain from stock, giving it a semblance of more clarity.
I sold it, and regret it a bit actually. That was a good pedal.

EDIT: But I really have to add and agree with what Frankfalbo says. It's definitely "candy" in a way.
I remember trying a few guitars through the pedal, stock and modded, and they all sounded extremely similar.
 
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Re: Boss Metal Zone: From love to hate... to love again?

Almost EVERY pedal CAN sound good - IF you set the knobs right, and use it in the right context/setting.

This is asking way too much of most guitarists, unfortunately.
 
Re: Boss Metal Zone: From love to hate... to love again?

Almost EVERY pedal CAN sound good - IF you set the knobs right, and use it in the right context/setting.

This is asking way too much of most guitarists, unfortunately.

You've obviously never played a DOD FX55b
 
Re: Boss Metal Zone: From love to hate... to love again?

The Metal Zone didn't really gel with my Marshalls. Too much tweaking of the EQ with those type of amps for me. Actually avoided the Metal Zone for years because everytime I heard someone play it, it was either too bassy with a shrill top end or very nasal. Plugging it in the front end of my Marshall, I got those same results, at any volume level.

Paired with an amp (or OD pedal maybe) that has nice thick low mids it works though. The Metal Zone sounded good in front of my Mesa Studio. Got that late 90's era Abyss studios sound.
 
Re: Boss Metal Zone: From love to hate... to love again?

If you're using a MT-2 for anything other than bedroom practice, you're not doing yourself any favors. I know a guy who uses one for everything and swears by it, but to me his tone is nothing but big buzzy mush, with no definition. No thank you.
 
Re: Boss Metal Zone: From love to hate... to love again?

I gave it a fair chance . . . the metal zone sounded good on it's own (well, scooped and poundingly tons of gain) but it didn't really cut well in a live situation . . . and I hated having to play with inner and outer knobs to desperately try and get a sound that was ok . . . and I'm a guy who likes playing with knobs . . .
It really needs a set up with a ton of clean headroom and the ability to keep the bottom tight without farting out, to cut it in a live setting.
 
Re: Boss Metal Zone: From love to hate... to love again?

I've always loved those pedals... For years and years it was my only pedal. I really live the saturation and the treble it has.
Pair it with a good wah and you can Pierce your eardrums.
 
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