korovamilkdud
WhoDatologist
I'm getting some braided wire in the mail soon. I'm planning on running it from the input jack to the selector switch. Question is...do I connect the shield anywhere? At how many points? Which ones?
braided shield wire for geetar....
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Artie
Peaveyologist
Re: braided shield wire for geetar....
If you must use a shielded wire, then you should ground one end of it to the output jack ground.
Having said that, I think you're wasting time, effort, and money - albeit, small amounts of all three. There's just nothing to be gained by sheilding that small piece of wire. For one thing, for it to be effective, you'ld also need to sheild the entire selector switch. It, after all, has large exposed terminal lugs.
But more importantly, the main sources of noise in a guitar, are the pickups, which must be exposed in order to work.
I really think you're wasting your time.
If you must use a shielded wire, then you should ground one end of it to the output jack ground.
Having said that, I think you're wasting time, effort, and money - albeit, small amounts of all three. There's just nothing to be gained by sheilding that small piece of wire. For one thing, for it to be effective, you'ld also need to sheild the entire selector switch. It, after all, has large exposed terminal lugs.
But more importantly, the main sources of noise in a guitar, are the pickups, which must be exposed in order to work.
I really think you're wasting your time.
korovamilkdud
WhoDatologist
Re: braided shield wire for geetar....
Crap.
Crap.
Re: braided shield wire for geetar....
It's overkill for sure, you ever see the LPs that had shielded wire, and the shield pan ... yeah I think the switch line is shielded (3 way switch ...LP), the LP switch body is grounded, and the back cover has a small piece of shielding foil on it .... that makes sense there ... but under the shield pan? Overkill, but if yours doesn't and it's humbuckers it won't be necessary ... it might help a bit better in a strat, but even then the main source of noise are the pups, and no amount of shielded wire will fix that, now a shielded pickguard/interior does help, and shielding the pups themselves will help ... that's what the LP does. Like Artie said, I don't see those little pieces making a difference.
ArtieToo said:If you must use a shielded wire, then you should ground one end of it to the output jack ground.
Having said that, I think you're wasting time, effort, and money - albeit, small amounts of all three. There's just nothing to be gained by sheilding that small piece of wire. For one thing, for it to be effective, you'ld also need to sheild the entire selector switch. It, after all, has large exposed terminal lugs.
But more importantly, the main sources of noise in a guitar, are the pickups, which must be exposed in order to work.
I really think you're wasting your time.
It's overkill for sure, you ever see the LPs that had shielded wire, and the shield pan ... yeah I think the switch line is shielded (3 way switch ...LP), the LP switch body is grounded, and the back cover has a small piece of shielding foil on it .... that makes sense there ... but under the shield pan? Overkill, but if yours doesn't and it's humbuckers it won't be necessary ... it might help a bit better in a strat, but even then the main source of noise are the pups, and no amount of shielded wire will fix that, now a shielded pickguard/interior does help, and shielding the pups themselves will help ... that's what the LP does. Like Artie said, I don't see those little pieces making a difference.
Vasshu the humanoid typhoon
Unseen
Re: braided shield wire for geetar....
Dunno I never liked the sound of braided shield wire, I like the spiral shield better, the braid sounds muffled while the spiral one is more open.
Dunno I never liked the sound of braided shield wire, I like the spiral shield better, the braid sounds muffled while the spiral one is more open.
korovamilkdud
WhoDatologist
Re: braided shield wire for geetar....
Well, darn. Anyone wanna buy some braided wire off me for $5?
Well, darn. Anyone wanna buy some braided wire off me for $5?
Re: braided shield wire for geetar....
i use some belden braided wire, decent size not sure. in a strat where you are going two or three inches, not a big deal. in a lp type setup it can make a difference, especially if you split the coils. one of my main guitars has lp style controls and i split hte pgb quite a bit. before i used the shielded wire it was noticably noisier, especially in clubs with neon
i use some belden braided wire, decent size not sure. in a strat where you are going two or three inches, not a big deal. in a lp type setup it can make a difference, especially if you split the coils. one of my main guitars has lp style controls and i split hte pgb quite a bit. before i used the shielded wire it was noticably noisier, especially in clubs with neon
korovamilkdud
WhoDatologist
Re: braided shield wire for geetar....
Well I do split my coils. I'll give it a shot. What have got to lose right?
So I'm just going to ground it to the input sleeve, or the back of my tone pot with everything else?
Well I do split my coils. I'll give it a shot. What have got to lose right?
So I'm just going to ground it to the input sleeve, or the back of my tone pot with everything else?
Re: braided shield wire for geetar....
Well as long as you got the stuff already you might as well use it ... you won't be out anything for sure. Or you could always keep it for other stuff later. That's the beauty of electrical/electronics supplies and components ... sooner or later you use them for something ... :laugh2:
korovamilkdud said:Well I do split my coils. I'll give it a shot. What have got to lose right?
So I'm just going to ground it to the input sleeve, or the back of my tone pot with everything else?
Well as long as you got the stuff already you might as well use it ... you won't be out anything for sure. Or you could always keep it for other stuff later. That's the beauty of electrical/electronics supplies and components ... sooner or later you use them for something ... :laugh2:
korovamilkdud
WhoDatologist
Re: braided shield wire for geetar....
Well I did it. Not much of a difference, but I can hear a tad less hiss with overdrive. Yay.
Well I did it. Not much of a difference, but I can hear a tad less hiss with overdrive. Yay.
