Bridge pup to pair with a Dimarzio 36th - PRS SE content

chewpac

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what's up guys?

i've been toying with ideas for a bridge pup for a while now for my PRS SE Akesson. it's an awesome guitar, and the stock pickups are surprisingly ok. i have a 36 anniversary PAF that i'm not using at the moment, though, and i think it'll be a great neck pup on this guitar. i want to get some nickel covers for whatever i slap in there, too, beacuse they look fantastic on the dark brown quilt.

i'm looking for a bridge bucker. i've been toying with a 36th anny bridge model, as well as a 59/Custom hybrid, sh5 Custom, sh6 Distortion, etc.

i'm not sure if the higher output will work with with the 36th or not....anyone with an SE 245 or Akesson have any input?

cheers.
 
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Re: Bridge pup to pair with a Dimarzio 36th - PRS SE content

I use a Dimarzio Steve's Special with a 36th in the neck and it is all good.
 
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What kind of music are you playing? You're talking 36th Ann PAF, right? Why not a bridge model too? Being a hybrid, the '59/Custom is bright and thin, and I think they sound much better with a warmer magnet (UOA5 or A2). If you're into metal, an SH-5 or SH-6 would be good, but definitely not what I'd choose for blues and classic rock.
 
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You should be good with the hybrid you mentioned. Don't forget to consider some of the other pickup options the PRS puts out. A lot of guys yank the SE pickups and put regular PRS models in and are happy.


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Re: Bridge pup to pair with a Dimarzio 36th - PRS SE content

thanks for the replies, guys.

i play a lot of different things, but it's mostly rock, hard rock oriented. i'm leaning toward the 36th bridge model. all my amps have a good amount of gain available, but it'd be cool to have hotter bridge pickup. my thing is i like it to sound great clean, and i'm looking for a pup that does a lot of things well.
 
Re: Bridge pup to pair with a Dimarzio 36th - PRS SE content

what's up guys?

i've been toying with ideas for a bridge pup for a while now for my PRS SE Akesson. it's an awesome guitar, and the stock pickups are surprisingly ok. i have a 36 anniversary PAF that i'm not using at the moment, though, and i think it'll be a great neck pup on this guitar. i want to get some nickel covers for whatever i slap in there, too, beacuse they look fantastic on the dark brown quilt.

i'm looking for a bridge bucker. i've been toying with a 36th anny bridge model, as well as a 59/Custom hybrid, sh5 Custom, sh6 Distortion, etc.

i'm not sure if the higher output will work with with the 36th or not....anyone with an SE 245 or Akesson have any input?

cheers.

You have several bridge choices with a mahogany PRS and a PAF36th neck. I don't like mixing pickup brands for 3 reasons. First, Dimarzios and Duncans sound very different. Second, it doesn't have a uniform look. Third, it reduces the value of the guitar if you ever sell it more than matched brands. For this reason, I'll recommend you some Dimarzios which I've personally experimented with.

DP160 Norton - Excellent pickup all-around. It's good for pretty much any kind of music except the kind that requires weak vintage pickups or very high output ceramic or active pickups. It has a nice bottom end mix of bass and low mids, excellent midrange concentration, and 80's style highs that are a bit bright but not piercing or harsh. It has the tonal character and power that couples well with the PAF36th neck. It has been my favorite Dimarzio for a long time.

DP224 AT-1 - This is an interesting pickup because it's k ind of a cross between a Breed and a Mo'Joe. It's relatively bright but warm. It has the kind of harmonic midrange that you would expect from a Diamarzio humbucker. I think the EQ is a bit interesting on this one because it has a full low end and low mids, then somewhere near or in the upper mids there's a cut, and then a peak back up in the highs which roll off before it can get harsh. I find it to be a very good Les Paul pickup as it seems to love Mahogany. Like the Norton , this is not one of their air pickups either (or at least that I can tell from the patent numbers).

DP151 PAF Pro - This is one of my favorite all-time pickups for bridge or neck. It has a unique sound. I think it's one of THE best pickups for soloing for several reasons. First, it has tons of great character - especially in the midrange. It has a relatively tight low end which is great for a variety of rock chording. The amount of low end of a JB is probably comparable to the PAF Pro so it's not lacking any low end, but it doesn't accentuate it either. It's a relatively bright pickup, but settles very well in mahogany and basswood and most alder guitars. It has kind of a woodiness about it, but it's different from old woody sounding vintage PAFs, almost as if there is a hint of processing (not that it sounds processed) because it carries this crunchy kind of "waw" sound. It's great for crystaline clean tones but perhaps it's a bit hi-fi compared to bright vintage PAFs. It's one of the most expressive pickups you can get which makes it awesome for soloing.

DP165 Breed NECK - The Breed neck also makes a great bridge pickup. It's similar to the output of a PAF Pro so it matches well with the PAF36th too. In bridge position, it's kind of a slightly dialed back Breed bridge. It works well in mahogany. Don't get stuck on the idea that it's a neck pickup because you would be missing out on a great bridge sound in your PRS. I'm inclined to recommend this route simply because it's a great fit and because it's a bit different from the usual choices. It's all about making your own sound man.

DP227 Liquifire NECK - Yes, again another neck pickup for bridge position. I wish Dimarzio wouldn't specifically distinguish the Breed and Liquifire neck pickups because they make really good bridge pickups. I tried the Liquifire in the bridge of one of my alder strats which has a tendency to sound a bit deeper in the lower mids than my other strats, so I think it would be a great fit for mahogany. It's not as bright as the Breed, but it's also a bit tighter. The Breed neck can be a bit loose or at least feel like that. It's a little more balanced than the Breed neck but it still has great harmonics and that PAF Pro kind of crunch. In my strat bridge it had what sounded to me like a real nice violin tone. It's kind of medium-hot for a neck pickup, but more along the lines of a PAF Pro when it's in the bridge position. However, it matches the output of the PAF36th well. It would be hard decision to make to have to choose between this and a Breed neck because they both make awesome bridge pickups. Like I said, don't get stuck on the idea that they're designated as neck pickups. They are VERY good bridge pickups so you would be missing out on some great tone if you overlooked them.

Overall, I'm inclined the recommend one of the two neck models I suggested because I think they will fit with the combination of your PRS and PAF36th neck.
 
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^ that's a ton of great info, and you raise some very good points. thanks.
 
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I don't like mixing pickup brands for 3 reasons. First, Dimarzios and Duncans sound very different.

It's been proven in laboratory tests that when PU's of different brands are put in the same guitar, weird electrical things happen, sometimes even sparks. A few guys have had them spontaneously ignite on stage. ;)

Combine any brands you want, the idea is to get the right sound for each slot, ignore the brand name. I do it all the time. There is no 'Duncan sound'; they have a wide selection of different sounding HBs, from Jazz and Seth, to JB and Invader. They're are all over the map, which is the Duncan sound out of those? Same with DiMarzio and Gibson; they have PAF's, mid-output, and high-output, alnico and ceramic. Is the 'Gibson sound' a low-output Burstbucker or '57 with A2's, or a high-output Dirty Fingers or 500T with ceramics? Or a high-output 498T with an A5?

The rest of that post had good insights on the individual PU's, just ignore the first paragraph.
 
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It's been proven in laboratory tests that when PU's of different brands are put in the same guitar, weird electrical things happen, sometimes even sparks. A few guys have had them spontaneously ignite on stage. ;)

Combine any brands you want, the idea is to get the right sound for each slot, ignore the brand name. I do it all the time. There is no 'Duncan sound'; they have a wide selection of different sounding HBs, from Jazz and Seth, to JB and Invader. They're are all over the map, which is the Duncan sound out of those? Same with DiMarzio and Gibson; they have PAF's, mid-output, and high-output, alnico and ceramic. Is the 'Gibson sound' a low-output Burstbucker or '57 with A2's, or a high-output Dirty Fingers or 500T with ceramics? Or a high-output 498T with an A5?

The rest of that post had good insights on the individual PU's, just ignore the first paragraph.

Blueman I usually respect your opinions, but I'm a little disappointed that you try to discredit my opinion when all I did was explain why I don't like to mix them. Sure you CAN mix them, obviously. It's not like I directly advised him not to mix them. I just explained my reasons for only recommending Dimarzios on the Duncan forum. Think about it this way. If pickups had accents, then comparing Dimarzio vs Duncan would be like comparing how someone from New Jersey and someone from California talks.
 
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all I did was explain why I don't like to mix them.

It's individual prefernec as to mixing different brands of PU's; what I disagree with the different voicings part, as Duncan and DiMarzio each have a huge line of PU's for all genres and guitars. A '59 is much more like a Virtual PAF or 36th Ann PAF than it is a 16K ceramic Duncan PU. And a BB is much closer to a Seth than a 500T.
 
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I can't say enough good things about the Distortion in my PRS SE Custom. It's phenomenal full on, split, and surprisingly versatile with the volume knob. It's just a perfect fit.
 
Re: Bridge pup to pair with a Dimarzio 36th - PRS SE content

chewpac, i would think that any of the main 4 you're looking at would fit the bill, but would lean towards the 36th or the 59/custom for wiring reasons. you could get some very interesting sounds with 4 different coils in the guitar
 
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This thread makes me want to buy a bunch of SE models just so I can try a bunch of different pickups. :headbang:
 
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I can't say enough good things about the Distortion in my PRS SE Custom. It's phenomenal full on, split, and surprisingly versatile with the volume knob. It's just a perfect fit.

right on. what do you use in the neck position? how's the balance?
 
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i think i'm leaning more toward the 36th, but that Distortion is tempting me, too...
 
Re: Bridge pup to pair with a Dimarzio 36th - PRS SE content

My initial thought with the 36th neck is either the 36th bridge for the PAF category or the Super Distortion if you want something hotter.
 
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right on. what do you use in the neck position? how's the balance?

Distortion neck model. It balances perfectly and gives an amazing amount of versatility, especially when they're wired to be split. Seriously, it's the perfect set for that guitar. It will go from sparkly clean to brutal.
 
Re: Bridge pup to pair with a Dimarzio 36th - PRS SE content

I like the idea of another PAF in the bridge. Especially for all around flexibility and match factor.

But, I think a 59/Custom wouldn't be a bad 2nd choice if you want a little m,ore 'lick'

My dark horse recommendation, if you are an aficionado of the Volume knob, is a Superdistortion.
 
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