Broken mounting leg of humbucker.

[DreX]

Re: Broken mounting leg of humbucker.

Why dont you just shore it up with an L bracket?

You take something like one of these

but bend it to a 90 degree angle of course, then you glue or solder one edge to the base of the pickup, and the other edge to the broken leg, so that everything lines up as it should, and effectively makes the little piece of metal the new leg.

 

[Edgecrusher]

Re: Broken mounting leg of humbucker.

Why dont you just shore it up with an L bracket?

You take something like one of these

but bend it to a 90 degree angle of course, then you glue or solder one edge to the base of the pickup, and the other edge to the broken leg, so that everything lines up as it should, and effectively makes the little piece of metal the new leg.

Thats what i kept recommending was some sort of support, as someone who has broken one before then had "field expedient" repairs fail again I would not trust jb weld alone to hold forever particularly if it isnt perfectly 90 degrees to the baseplate the side load from the screw will pop it again if you play with it too much... unless you reinforce it.

 

[DreX]

Re: Broken mounting leg of humbucker.

I PUT SOME JB Weld on the pickup leg that broke and let it set for about 8 hours and it HELD!!!! I was able to find the JB QUICK for this application and it really works on BRASS.

Oh, you already fixed it.. well, if the JB Weld doesn't hold up.

Now to the next question for this build im doing. What gauge wire do you use when wiring your guitars from scratch?

Whatever is easiest to work with. Some people think thicker guage is better, but the amount of current moving though the wire is so tiny, and the runs are so short that it completely and utterly doesn't matter from a performance stand point. If I'd doing a complicated tight cavity scheme, I'll use 24 AWG hookup wire, but if its easy and there's room to spare, I'll use vintage pull back wire for the fun of it, like this http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/111403256532?lpid=82&chn=ps

 

[guitarSQUIRELL]

Re: Broken mounting leg of humbucker.

Oh, you already fixed it.. well, if the JB Weld doesn't hold up.





Whatever is easiest to work with. Some people think thicker guage is better, but the amount of current moving though the wire is so tiny, and the runs are so short that it completely and utterly doesn't matter from a performance stand point. If I'd doing a complicated tight cavity scheme, I'll use 24 AWG hookup wire, but if its easy and there's room to spare, I'll use vintage pull back wire for the fun of it, like this http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/111403256532?lpid=82&chn=ps

Iput the jb weld on yesterday and let it harden up and installed the pickup...checked it today and its still hasnt moved or anything....hopefully it wont break loose.....I think I may have some of that wire laying around somewhere, (hookup wire that is).

 

[Brandenburg]

Re: Broken mounting leg of humbucker.

I'll use vintage pull back wire for the fun of it, like this http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/111403256532?lpid=82&chn=ps

i prefer that type of wire and all of my guitars are wired with that type..its a bit harder to work with but not to bad

 

[guitarSQUIRELL]

Re: Broken mounting leg of humbucker.

What happens if I use a bigger wire for the signal chain under the pickgaurd?

 

[GilmourD]

Re: Broken mounting leg of humbucker.

What happens if I use a bigger wire for the signal chain under the pickgaurd?

Bigger is better than smaller as far as signal (if we're talking about size of the actual conductor, not the insulator) but might present routing issues through the guitar if it's too thick.

 

[DreX]

Re: Broken mounting leg of humbucker.

There's no electronic basis for the idea that a bigger wire is better. The bigger the wire, the higher resistance, which is usually a bad thing, but since the distance between the pickups and the controls is so short, the added resistance is extremely small, so all in all, it doesn't matter.

 

[GilmourD]

Re: Broken mounting leg of humbucker.

There's no electronic basis for the idea that a bigger wire is better. The bigger the wire, the higher resistance, which is usually a bad thing, but since the distance between the pickups and the controls is so short, the added resistance is extremely small, so all in all, it doesn't matter.

Actually, it's the other way around. Remember, higher number AWG gauge is actually smaller wire.

 

[DreX]

Re: Broken mounting leg of humbucker.

I didn't say higher awg

 

[GilmourD]

Re: Broken mounting leg of humbucker.

I didn't say higher awg

Yes, you said bigger wire has higher resistance. It doesn't. I wanted to make sure you weren't confused.

 

[DreX]

Re: Broken mounting leg of humbucker.

I got that backwards, that's true, but the point still stands; different gauges of hookup wire make no difference in this application.

According to this calculator http://www.cirris.com/learning-center/calculators/133-wire-resistance-calculator-table, one foot of 28 awg puts up 0.065 ohms resistance, 24 awg puts up 0.026 ohms resistance, 12 awg puts up 0.002 ohms. There's no way you could argue or believe that human hearing will perceive any sonic differences that would be brought about by those tiny differences in resistances.

 

[Gibson 1964]

Re: Broken mounting leg of humbucker.

I like using pre-tinned cloth covered wire, just because it is fairly stiff and is easier to wire up nice and neat, which in turn keeps the gremlins and widgets out of the wiring. In that sense, I think it is an easier wire to use for builds.

 

[guitarSQUIRELL]

Re: Broken mounting leg of humbucker.

DOES IT MAKE A DIFFERENCE WHICH WIRE? THEY ALL WILL SOUND THE SAME, CORRECT?

 

[DreX]

Re: Broken mounting leg of humbucker.

Yes they will sound the same. The technical differences are too small to matter in a guitar. You'd use thicker wire to carry more current, like in power amplifier, speaker cable, etc., but electric guitars have very very little current, so get whatever is fun and satisfying to work with. Get cloth wire if you want to pretend you're a guitar/amp tech in the 1950's, or get thinner stuff if you plan to do complex wiring in a tiny cavity, or plan to wire up push/pull pots, as soldering vintage style wire to it's tiny little terminals is not my idea of a good time.

 

[guitarSQUIRELL]

Re: Broken mounting leg of humbucker.

THANKS, IM READY TO GET THIS THING DONE AND CRANKING SOME MUSIC....WENT FROM A SSS FENDER STYLE ALUMINUM PICKGAURD TO A HSH ALUMINUM IN THE SAME PIICKGAURD....EVERYONE HERE IS KNOWLEDGEABLE AND HAS GREAT IDEAS....I HAVE OTHER THREADS ALSO IF ANYONE IS INTERESTED IN SOME PEDALS FOR A 2 SET OF HUMBUCKERS..BEEN TRYING TO GET RID OF THEM FOR A WHILE NOW AND CANT...LOOKING FOR SOME USED SEYMOUR SETS OR SOMETHING HIGH OUTPUT.

 

[Gibson 1964]

Re: Broken mounting leg of humbucker.

or get thinner stuff if you plan to do complex wiring in a tiny cavity, or plan to wire up push/pull pots, as soldering vintage style wire to it's tiny little terminals is not my idea of a good time.

Really? I like using the vintage style wire on complex stuff, because of the stiffness. I run all the wire through the eyelets, make a little loop, crimp it on nice and tight with jeweler's pliers and solder. It makes for extremely clean and easy connections. I also like running heat shrink tubing over that to keep my terminals all nicely separated and clean. (That isn't always possible pending exact application though) I just hate dealing with the really thin stuff.

My methodology is ideal for me because it enables me to do really clean wiring which prevents me from having stupid errors like a rogue strand of wire or a blob of solder hanging out and shorting something.

 

[DreX]

Re: Broken mounting leg of humbucker.

Really? I like using the vintage style wire on complex stuff, because of the stiffness. I run all the wire through the eyelets, make a little loop, crimp it on nice and tight with jeweler's pliers and solder. It makes for extremely clean and easy connections. I also like running heat shrink tubing over that to keep my terminals all nicely separated and clean. (That isn't always possible pending exact application though) I just hate dealing with the really thin stuff.

My methodology is ideal for me because it enables me to do really clean wiring which prevents me from having stupid errors like a rogue strand of wire or a blob of solder hanging out and shorting something.

The cloth wire I got from All Parts is a thicker gauge and multi stranded. All of the strands together won't fit through the little holes in a push/pull terminals of some push pull pots, and it would usually take a larger gob of solder to join securely, but worst of all, the thicker stiffer wire is more likely to torque on the terminals when the wire gets pushed around in the cavity.

This isn't my photo, I just pulled it off Google Images for illustration. The terminals are only designed to accommodate a thinner gauge of hookup wire.

 

[Demanic]

Re: Broken mounting leg of humbucker.

Whilst on the subject of wire, does it make a difference if the wire is multi stranded or a single solid strand, as far as tone goes?

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[DreX]

Re: Broken mounting leg of humbucker.

No.