Broken neck :(

[Securb]

Re: Broken neck

And how much does a router and bits and decent chisels cost? A couple hundred bucks? .

I got my router on Ebay for $10 ten years ago and I am still using it today. You have to start building your collection of guitar tools at some point and why not learn and experiment on a "throw away" Epiphone vs. making a huge mistake down the line on a guitar you really love. The upside you build your collection of tools, you learn something, you have some fun and the big upside is you might end up with a playable guitar. The downside you are out $50 bucks. I would play that game all day long.

 

[Edgecrusher]

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I got my router on Ebay for $10 ten years ago and I am still using it today. You have to start building your collection of guitar tools at some point and why not learn and experiment on a "throw away" Epiphone vs. making a huge mistake down the line on a guitar you really love. The upside you build your collection of tools, you learn something, you have some fun and the big upside is you might end up with a playable guitar. The downside you are out $50 bucks. I would play that game all day long.

We must not shop at the same places I cannot buy a router and a jigsaw for 50 bucks least of all not ones worth using. 10 bucks is insane cheap i cant get one shipped for that much.

However this is fine and dandy and all but these are questions for the OP not for me. Prior to this post the OP was posting saying that he wanted to buy a new guitar (his first guitar at that) and was asking which he should purchase. He hasnt been on here talking about projects or mods hence my suggestion to dump this idea and go a different route.

 

[jon the art guy]

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I was given a router for free. Its a decent one too. Jigsaws cost $20 for cheap ones. Go to Harbor Freight for as much of it as possible, then if you decide you don't like woodworking, sell it cheap or throw it/give it away.

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[Edgecrusher]

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I was given a router for free. Its a decent one too. Jigsaws cost $20 for cheap ones. Go to Harbor Freight for as much of it as possible, then if you decide you don't like woodworking, sell it cheap or throw it/give it away.

Are you trying to convince me or the OP? Do they have harbor freight in Norway?

 

[jon the art guy]

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It might be "Hårbør Freight".

off u see did MRSAge, I m on tapa talk and auto correct is hating on me

 

[Securb]

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Are you trying to convince me or the OP? Do they have harbor freight in Norway?

YOU, we are trying to convince you!

 

[jon the art guy]

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Fjord Freight.

off u see did MRSAge, I m on tapa talk and auto correct is hating on me

 

[Edgecrusher]

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YOU, we are trying to convince you!

Convince me of what? That cheap junk tools exist? Sure they do but i dont think this thread is the appropriate place to debate about their merits. Ive given my opinion on what I think the OP should do. I fail to see why you need to convince me that the OP needs a project. Does me holding the opinion that I do bother you or something? If the guy wants a project he can have at it. It wont even register on my Give-o-xxxx meter. He asked a question I gave an opinion seems simple to me.

 

[Mr. B]

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Take it apart. Sell the parts separately on Ebay. Sell the body on ebay for 30 dollars. Buy yourself something nice with the money you make.

 

[AlexR]

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You're overcomplicating the whole situation..... It's completely doable. I've done something very similar with a fender style neck. Dovetailed to bottom to set it. There are devices made to clear out routed corners. Chisels and sandpaper work fine too. Lots of guys oversize the tenon and chisel, file and sand it down for a tight fit. The 4.4 degree angle is usually cut with a saw beforehand into the neck... Even the SG needs a angle so i'm assuming GFS has it precut. The other 4.4 is routed straight into the body so the Epi should have it.

As for your template, you should have used a box. build a box to height and cut out the negative space to use as your template. Much more stable.
Or at the very least, stick two blocks of wood on either side and one in front to act as rails...

The SG has a square tenon, and the top section is cut away.....thats why this neck for an SG has (incredibly) a square tenon. The two are entirely different.

And you are confused - the negative space is used for the mortice cut, not the tenon. You can often use a bridge to anchor the router it is true.

But the lowdown is - Don't recommend a SG tenon for a LP - the right tools for the right job

 

[Chocklit_Thunda]

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I don't even know what you're on about here. You just rout the sg tenon into a les paul shape. The top section I assume is the one just after the fretboard ends? It's cut away because it goes in the pickup pocket. Same on a les paul albeit less is cut away because the tenon is shorter/more under the fretboard.
Don't call me confused. I know exactly what I'm talking about here. The negative space on the template is everything that isn't the tenon shape. As in the space where the router but goes to shape the tenon. Perhaps I didn't type it clearly enough. I apologise.

Also I just made a suggestion to the OP. The suggestion was to MODIFY an SG tenon into a les paul one which is entirely possible. I didn't suggest he try stuffing a square tenon into a long mortise.
My suggestion was only if he wanted to learn how to repair a guitar. If he can find a neck on ebay then power to him.If not then yes, he'd be better off getting a new guitar and trashing this.
Anyway.... I'm over this derailment, back to the original post.

 

[Securb]

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Does me holding the opinion that I do bother you or something?

I Jest with you my friend, I am not trying to convince of anything. Your view and advice is solid, it is a major repair for a average guitar. Like I said it would be a great starter project for someone that would like to get into working on their axes. That being said they would be jumping into the deep end of the guitar repair pool. I can't think of a repair that is more involved.

 

[AlexR]

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I don't even know what you're on about here. You just rout the sg tenon into a les paul shape. The top section I assume is the one just after the fretboard ends? It's cut away because it goes in the pickup pocket. Same on a les paul albeit less is cut away because the tenon is shorter/more under the fretboard.
Don't call me confused. I know exactly what I'm talking about here. The negative space on the template is everything that isn't the tenon shape. As in the space where the router but goes to shape the tenon. Perhaps I didn't type it clearly enough. I apologise.

Also I just made a suggestion to the OP. The suggestion was to MODIFY an SG tenon into a les paul one which is entirely possible. I didn't suggest he try stuffing a square tenon into a long mortise.
My suggestion was only if he wanted to learn how to repair a guitar. If he can find a neck on ebay then power to him.If not then yes, he'd be better off getting a new guitar and trashing this.
Anyway.... I'm over this derailment, back to the original post.

Ok, last post here . SG tenon is the wrong size, It also has every dimension wrong....wrong depth, wrong length wrong height. The critical one is that it not deep enough. the heel is not deep enough - you would have to add wood on the bottom of it to make the heel deep enough. That or see an ugly cut mark on the body if you saw the neck off, or a block of wood you insert to sit the SG tenon on top of.

So there is no easy way to modify the tenon to make it fit. Buy a LP neck and you don't add stupid degrees of additional finicky work to an already tricky task - there is no derailment of the thread, just the correction of poor advice.

OP - buy a proper LP tenon neck if you choose to go this way.