Build Your Own Clone
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joelap
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^ those people must have built them wrong, I built two BYOC pedals over a year and a half ago and both worked perfect, and they were my first builds. I highly recommend them. Keith is a good guy too, very helpful. (keith is his name right?) His kits got me started building pedals.
^ those people must have built them wrong, I built two BYOC pedals over a year and a half ago and both worked perfect, and they were my first builds. I highly recommend them. Keith is a good guy too, very helpful. (keith is his name right?) His kits got me started building pedals.
joelap
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Well, I built a rangemaster and then the tribooster. It really is color by number, but after a few of those, it gives you the confidence to start sourcing parts yourself from electronics suppliers and to piece it together yourself using schematics or layouts. Its kinda crawling before you walk I guess. I'm using his script phase 90 circuit board in a pedal I'm building for closed eye. I'll tell you, his circuit boards are second to none. its not the copper-on-glass-epoxy board, these are legitimate boards, tinned contacts and silkscreened layout. I absolutely love his circuit boards.
Well, I built a rangemaster and then the tribooster. It really is color by number, but after a few of those, it gives you the confidence to start sourcing parts yourself from electronics suppliers and to piece it together yourself using schematics or layouts. Its kinda crawling before you walk I guess. I'm using his script phase 90 circuit board in a pedal I'm building for closed eye. I'll tell you, his circuit boards are second to none. its not the copper-on-glass-epoxy board, these are legitimate boards, tinned contacts and silkscreened layout. I absolutely love his circuit boards.
NT02
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Ok, you're the devil and I'm weak. That Tri-booster looks pretty cool, too. I see a BYOC in my near future.
Know what I'd like to do? Build a distortion identical to the Vintage Rat, but adjust the tone to be like the Big Muff Pi. That would be tonal xtasy to me.
Ok, you're the devil and I'm weak. That Tri-booster looks pretty cool, too. I see a BYOC in my near future.
Know what I'd like to do? Build a distortion identical to the Vintage Rat, but adjust the tone to be like the Big Muff Pi. That would be tonal xtasy to me.
britishgeetah
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THis stuff looks cool! I see how it's "Color by numbers" but how can you modify the tone to be different?
THis stuff looks cool! I see how it's "Color by numbers" but how can you modify the tone to be different?
devastone
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He has a Rat clone and a Triangle era Big Muff clone now. And, until the end of the month he has a sale, buy 3 kits, get the delay kit free.
I was weak, I bought the Mighty Mouse (Rat), Phaser, Chorus, and got the free delay. Hence, I have some pedals going on ebay this weekend. So far, I have built the Rat and Phaser and like both. The Rat is a little tight fitting in the enclosure, but it has 3 modes, Rat distortion, clean boost, and overdrive. I like it alot. The phaser sounds good too, it's more subtle that the new reissue Phase 90s, and has nice tone. I'm working on the chorus and delay, probably get them done this weekend.
The kits are pretty much color by number if you can solder. I've actually built around 125 or so pedals from scratch that were sold through Fat Sound Guitars in NC about 10 years ago. To do nice painted pedals with silk screening and everything, it's alot of work, including out sourcing. These kits are worth the $, some of them, like the phaser, cost about the same as the RI Phase 90, but the BYOC ones are true bypass. You can voice the BYOC one to sound like the new RI or the old script phaser, if you look around the forum there are quite a few mods too, although I would definitely build some "stock" ones first to get your feet wet. I also say the kits are worth it because if your time is worth anything, the time required to source parts for a few pedals is worth the price of the pedal. Not to mention ordering in small quantities will cost you more per part than ordering parts in the 100s.
FWIW, I'm pretty quick with an iron, I built the Rat in a couple of hours and the Phaser in about 1-1/2 hours. If you're just getting started, plan on a few nights per pedal and possibly some trouble shooting, there is lots of help at the BYOC forum too. I also didn't paint the boxes, just labeled them, I'm more concerned with good sounding pedals, spending hours painting them doesn't interest me.
Lots of ways, check out the forum. The people there run the gamut from the people that can color by numbers but need everything spelled out for them to people who know their way around electronics pretty well. As far as specific mods, it would depend on what you are talking about.
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He has a Rat clone and a Triangle era Big Muff clone now. And, until the end of the month he has a sale, buy 3 kits, get the delay kit free.
I was weak, I bought the Mighty Mouse (Rat), Phaser, Chorus, and got the free delay. Hence, I have some pedals going on ebay this weekend. So far, I have built the Rat and Phaser and like both. The Rat is a little tight fitting in the enclosure, but it has 3 modes, Rat distortion, clean boost, and overdrive. I like it alot. The phaser sounds good too, it's more subtle that the new reissue Phase 90s, and has nice tone. I'm working on the chorus and delay, probably get them done this weekend.
The kits are pretty much color by number if you can solder. I've actually built around 125 or so pedals from scratch that were sold through Fat Sound Guitars in NC about 10 years ago. To do nice painted pedals with silk screening and everything, it's alot of work, including out sourcing. These kits are worth the $, some of them, like the phaser, cost about the same as the RI Phase 90, but the BYOC ones are true bypass. You can voice the BYOC one to sound like the new RI or the old script phaser, if you look around the forum there are quite a few mods too, although I would definitely build some "stock" ones first to get your feet wet. I also say the kits are worth it because if your time is worth anything, the time required to source parts for a few pedals is worth the price of the pedal. Not to mention ordering in small quantities will cost you more per part than ordering parts in the 100s.
FWIW, I'm pretty quick with an iron, I built the Rat in a couple of hours and the Phaser in about 1-1/2 hours. If you're just getting started, plan on a few nights per pedal and possibly some trouble shooting, there is lots of help at the BYOC forum too. I also didn't paint the boxes, just labeled them, I'm more concerned with good sounding pedals, spending hours painting them doesn't interest me.
Lots of ways, check out the forum. The people there run the gamut from the people that can color by numbers but need everything spelled out for them to people who know their way around electronics pretty well. As far as specific mods, it would depend on what you are talking about.
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NT02
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Awesome, thanks for the reply, Devastone. Lots of great info. The Mighty Mouse sounds too cool. I'm definitely in for that. My time is very limited, with school and work, but I can always set aside some time for a project like this. I will take your advice, go stock, and then mod if I ever get the itch. Now I only have to decide which one is first. I cannot afford to go for three. I wish!
Awesome, thanks for the reply, Devastone. Lots of great info. The Mighty Mouse sounds too cool. I'm definitely in for that. My time is very limited, with school and work, but I can always set aside some time for a project like this. I will take your advice, go stock, and then mod if I ever get the itch. Now I only have to decide which one is first. I cannot afford to go for three. I wish!
devastone
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I went vintage for now, I'm adding another toggle to go between vintage and turbo. If you check the forum, I posted a diagram to do that easily.
The Turbo will be quite a bit higher output and the tone should be a little harder and crunchier than the vintage mode.
I went vintage for now, I'm adding another toggle to go between vintage and turbo. If you check the forum, I posted a diagram to do that easily.
The Turbo will be quite a bit higher output and the tone should be a little harder and crunchier than the vintage mode.
Rushfan2112
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I built a delay kit and I'm in the middle of a Triboost build. Excellent quality stuff.
I built a delay kit and I'm in the middle of a Triboost build. Excellent quality stuff.
the guy who invented fire
Fuzzy. Guitars
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The deal with BYOC is that in a lot of ways you get what you put in...if you slop it together in a hurry you get crap if you take your time it gets better...After looking at the BYOC kits they are pretty decent parts...not amazing, super high quality but better than a lot of other pedals out there and as long as you wire them up correctly, take your time and do it right you'll end up with a decent unit.
The deal with BYOC is that in a lot of ways you get what you put in...if you slop it together in a hurry you get crap if you take your time it gets better...After looking at the BYOC kits they are pretty decent parts...not amazing, super high quality but better than a lot of other pedals out there and as long as you wire them up correctly, take your time and do it right you'll end up with a decent unit.
devastone
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i just changed my MM to Turbo, the LEDs are tighter and crunchier sounding than the 1N914s, and louder. I like both, I didn't add a switch because I didn't feel like drilling a hole in the side. I'll probably stick with the LEDs for now since I'm pushing a high gain head anyway. The 914s are more compressed and softer sounding. They brings out more of the Rat-tiness (thinkg Nuno's tone, he has his old Rat on most of the time) in the box, where the Turbo is more of a straight up distorto box.
Both are very cool as is the OD mode.
i just changed my MM to Turbo, the LEDs are tighter and crunchier sounding than the 1N914s, and louder. I like both, I didn't add a switch because I didn't feel like drilling a hole in the side. I'll probably stick with the LEDs for now since I'm pushing a high gain head anyway. The 914s are more compressed and softer sounding. They brings out more of the Rat-tiness (thinkg Nuno's tone, he has his old Rat on most of the time) in the box, where the Turbo is more of a straight up distorto box.
Both are very cool as is the OD mode.
NT02
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Sweet! I sold a Vintage Rat so I could afford to compare the Keeley and Analogman DS-1s. I loved that crunch -to-fuzz quality of the Rat, but didn't get along so well with the filter knob. I'm thinking that I'm going to get this MM pedal to play with. Thanks for your info, Devastone. I look forward to trying it out myself. I might be hitting you up in the near future for some advice.
Sweet! I sold a Vintage Rat so I could afford to compare the Keeley and Analogman DS-1s. I loved that crunch -to-fuzz quality of the Rat, but didn't get along so well with the filter knob. I'm thinking that I'm going to get this MM pedal to play with. Thanks for your info, Devastone. I look forward to trying it out myself. I might be hitting you up in the near future for some advice.
NT02
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Just checked out the forum and I'm hooked. This site is a tweaker's wet dream. I'm thinking I'll go ahead and spring for the 3+delay deal. It's all your fault, dev...
I know I want the MM and the Phaser, but can't decide on the 3rd. I have a modded ts5 and a Russian Big Muff and an Arion SCH-1. I have a couple of wahs. I'm thinking the Large Beaver to compare or the 250+ for more variety. Can't make up my mind!
Just checked out the forum and I'm hooked. This site is a tweaker's wet dream. I'm thinking I'll go ahead and spring for the 3+delay deal. It's all your fault, dev...
I know I want the MM and the Phaser, but can't decide on the 3rd. I have a modded ts5 and a Russian Big Muff and an Arion SCH-1. I have a couple of wahs. I'm thinking the Large Beaver to compare or the 250+ for more variety. Can't make up my mind!
devastone
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Don't blame me! I was looking for a Rat and decided on the MM because of the 3 modes, and it was less than a new Rat and alot less than an old "vintage" one. I figure the MM is closer to an old Rat than the new ones.
I will say that it does require patience with the kits, don't rush, like the fire guy said, alot of the quality is up to you. BTW, the Analog chorus if pretty cool too, haven't got the delay up and running yet.
Don't blame me! I was looking for a Rat and decided on the MM because of the 3 modes, and it was less than a new Rat and alot less than an old "vintage" one. I figure the MM is closer to an old Rat than the new ones.
I will say that it does require patience with the kits, don't rush, like the fire guy said, alot of the quality is up to you. BTW, the Analog chorus if pretty cool too, haven't got the delay up and running yet.
