britishgeetah
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IS that a good idea? I'm thinking of getting a Fender Super Reverb and cranking it for just overdrive. Is that a good idea?
Buying a Fender amp soley for the overdrive sounds?
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bungalowbill
Luckybastidologist
Re: Buying a Fender amp soley for the overdrive sounds?
It will sound great.......also very loud. I would try out a Deluxe Reverb, less volume and a similar tone.
It will sound great.......also very loud. I would try out a Deluxe Reverb, less volume and a similar tone.
That90'sGuy
DyzaBoyzologist
Re: Buying a Fender amp soley for the overdrive sounds?
If it sounds good to you, why not? I've never really thought of Fenders as being exceptional "overdrive" amps, not unless we were talking about a Tweed Deluxe, Tweed Bassman, Blackface Vibrolux, etc.
If it sounds good to you, why not? I've never really thought of Fenders as being exceptional "overdrive" amps, not unless we were talking about a Tweed Deluxe, Tweed Bassman, Blackface Vibrolux, etc.
britishgeetah
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Re: Buying a Fender amp soley for the overdrive sounds?
What would you call exceptional overdrive amps then?
What would you call exceptional overdrive amps then?
britishgeetah
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Re: Buying a Fender amp soley for the overdrive sounds?
Can someone describe the tone of the mentioned amps?
Can someone describe the tone of the mentioned amps?
J Moose
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Re: Buying a Fender amp soley for the overdrive sounds?
Fender Princetons are pretty tough to beat for good dirt at a reasonable volume.
The Bassman's are pretty cool too. Really loud. But cool.
The Hero Pattern tune, "Monster" was all cut with Fender amps. The left guitar is either a Bassman or Virbrolux & the right guitar was a Silverface Princeton into a 2x12 with Vintage 30's. Of course there's some EQ and whatever on there but it'll give an idea of the texture. Both guys were using Pauls & SG's...
http://www.mooseaudio.net/discography.php
Fender Princetons are pretty tough to beat for good dirt at a reasonable volume.
The Bassman's are pretty cool too. Really loud. But cool.
The Hero Pattern tune, "Monster" was all cut with Fender amps. The left guitar is either a Bassman or Virbrolux & the right guitar was a Silverface Princeton into a 2x12 with Vintage 30's. Of course there's some EQ and whatever on there but it'll give an idea of the texture. Both guys were using Pauls & SG's...
http://www.mooseaudio.net/discography.php
JB_From_Hell
Jomo's Nimions
Re: Buying a Fender amp soley for the overdrive sounds?
+1. When I was first starting out, I'd put my dad's Super in the bathroom, close the door, and rock out with it dimed
britishgeetah
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Re: Buying a Fender amp soley for the overdrive sounds?
hahaha
that sounds awesome!
So, you'd say a Super Reverb would sound good distorted?
+1. When I was first starting out, I'd put my dad's Super in the bathroom, close the door, and rock out with it dimed
hahaha
that sounds awesome!
So, you'd say a Super Reverb would sound good distorted?
Bludave
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Re: Buying a Fender amp soley for the overdrive sounds?
Well not really. The Deluxe cranked tends to get muddy, the Super gets huge. I love a Super cranked all the way. But I agree it is so loud in most situations it won't work. The Deluxe is one of my favorite amps but I don't think they hold together over 6. The Super begins to come alive at 6 (from and OD point of view).
I like a Super at about 3 or 4 on the volume. At that point it is still pretty clean and a decent OD pedal it works real well. When you consider the Deluxe is pushing 12" of air and the Super is pushing 40" of air it makes a big difference in tone also!:27:
Well not really. The Deluxe cranked tends to get muddy, the Super gets huge. I love a Super cranked all the way. But I agree it is so loud in most situations it won't work. The Deluxe is one of my favorite amps but I don't think they hold together over 6. The Super begins to come alive at 6 (from and OD point of view).
I like a Super at about 3 or 4 on the volume. At that point it is still pretty clean and a decent OD pedal it works real well. When you consider the Deluxe is pushing 12" of air and the Super is pushing 40" of air it makes a big difference in tone also!:27:
Bludave
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Re: Buying a Fender amp soley for the overdrive sounds?
Sounds like somebody has had some bad experiences. I've had my Super Reverb for over 12 years and the only thing I've done to it is replace tubes!
britishgeetah
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Re: Buying a Fender amp soley for the overdrive sounds?
Yeah, I see how when I need it mic'd, I'll have to turn it down, can't I ask the sound engineer to just leave my amp un-mic'd?
How much did you pay for your Super Reverb/what year is it?
I saw a Super that looks exactly like yours (like with the vintage faceplate) at my shop.
lol@ our sigs.
Yeah, I see how when I need it mic'd, I'll have to turn it down, can't I ask the sound engineer to just leave my amp un-mic'd?
How much did you pay for your Super Reverb/what year is it?
I saw a Super that looks exactly like yours (like with the vintage faceplate) at my shop.
lol@ our sigs.
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JB_From_Hell
Jomo's Nimions
Re: Buying a Fender amp soley for the overdrive sounds?
It depends on what distortion sound you're going for. First time I tried it, I wanted "Crazy Train", so I was disappointed
Re: Buying a Fender amp soley for the overdrive sounds?
put 6L6's in that deluxe and 9 is a wonderful number!!
i love fender amps for overdrive, i dont play clean very often and i sold everything that isnt a fender style amp, then had scott build me another one (which slayed at yesterdays gig by the way).
supers arent my favorite fender to overdrive though. derek trucks gets amazing tones from them but i much prefer a deluxe reverb or tweed style amp.
for the price of a super you should be able to get a good deluxe and do everything you need to make it the only amp youll need.
put 6L6's in that deluxe and 9 is a wonderful number!!
i love fender amps for overdrive, i dont play clean very often and i sold everything that isnt a fender style amp, then had scott build me another one (which slayed at yesterdays gig by the way).
supers arent my favorite fender to overdrive though. derek trucks gets amazing tones from them but i much prefer a deluxe reverb or tweed style amp.
for the price of a super you should be able to get a good deluxe and do everything you need to make it the only amp youll need.
britishgeetah
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Re: Buying a Fender amp soley for the overdrive sounds?
So what would you use a Super Reverb for anyways?
What do you like more about the Deluxe Reverb, jeremy?
So what would you use a Super Reverb for anyways?
What do you like more about the Deluxe Reverb, jeremy?
bungalowbill
Luckybastidologist
Re: Buying a Fender amp soley for the overdrive sounds?
You are correct in that the deluxe will get a little "farty" on the low end....but a deluxe with the volume between 5-6 will sound similar to a super....not as huge for sure, but similar. I only dimed a Super once in a small club and it was overkill in the volume department. Both are phenomenal amps.
You are correct in that the deluxe will get a little "farty" on the low end....but a deluxe with the volume between 5-6 will sound similar to a super....not as huge for sure, but similar. I only dimed a Super once in a small club and it was overkill in the volume department. Both are phenomenal amps.
Re: Buying a Fender amp soley for the overdrive sounds?
when set up right i think the deluxe reverb can be the perfect country/blues/rock amp. a silver face deluxe reverb would be perfect to mod. not counting the speaker i spent less than $50 on parts and used good carbon comps, mallory 150s and orange drops
i know lew loves his dr and i got some of the ideas from him or his advice is what got me thinking in the direction i took anyway.
mine is a '66 (disclaimer - messing with a collectable vintage amp is dumb and hurts the resale value, not recomended) i put a cannabis rex speaker in, gt6l6ge power tubes biased a little hot and pulled the trem tube. those are easy and wont hurt the value of a vintage amp as long as you keep the original speaker.
i changed a few things on the vibrato channel
- upped the bass cap so the bottom end is a little less tubby
- changed the 820 resistor on v2 to 1500 and seperated it from v1 (the two tubes were sharing this resister so by isolating them and putting approx double the value the tone on the vibrato channel stays about they same)
-cut the wire from the trem control which made a huge difference, really opened up the amp
-cut the negative feedback from the amp which gives it a more raw tone
-changed the .001 to a .02 on the input of the pi
on the normal channel i bypassed the eq so the controls dont work and put a cap to loose some bottom end, .01 is what i ended up with i think. i made the first tube run a little hotter and put reverb on both channels which picks up an extra gain stage.
the amp is louder and clearer overall. the vibrato channel is very clean and fendery, clean up to 4 then adds dirt from there. the normal channel is FAT with plenty of gain and sustain at 5.
even if both channels are set dirty the normal sounds much thicker than the vibrato
when set up right i think the deluxe reverb can be the perfect country/blues/rock amp. a silver face deluxe reverb would be perfect to mod. not counting the speaker i spent less than $50 on parts and used good carbon comps, mallory 150s and orange drops
i know lew loves his dr and i got some of the ideas from him or his advice is what got me thinking in the direction i took anyway.
mine is a '66 (disclaimer - messing with a collectable vintage amp is dumb and hurts the resale value, not recomended) i put a cannabis rex speaker in, gt6l6ge power tubes biased a little hot and pulled the trem tube. those are easy and wont hurt the value of a vintage amp as long as you keep the original speaker.
i changed a few things on the vibrato channel
- upped the bass cap so the bottom end is a little less tubby
- changed the 820 resistor on v2 to 1500 and seperated it from v1 (the two tubes were sharing this resister so by isolating them and putting approx double the value the tone on the vibrato channel stays about they same)
-cut the wire from the trem control which made a huge difference, really opened up the amp
-cut the negative feedback from the amp which gives it a more raw tone
-changed the .001 to a .02 on the input of the pi
on the normal channel i bypassed the eq so the controls dont work and put a cap to loose some bottom end, .01 is what i ended up with i think. i made the first tube run a little hotter and put reverb on both channels which picks up an extra gain stage.
the amp is louder and clearer overall. the vibrato channel is very clean and fendery, clean up to 4 then adds dirt from there. the normal channel is FAT with plenty of gain and sustain at 5.
even if both channels are set dirty the normal sounds much thicker than the vibrato
drew_half_empty
Looking for Real Life
Re: Buying a Fender amp soley for the overdrive sounds?
buying a fender for the overdrive tone is an excellent idea
bedroom volume is for little girls
buying a fender for the overdrive tone is an excellent idea
bedroom volume is for little girls
