Can the EH POG do a B4 organ sound ?

[millsart]

I've heard some clips of the POG and the Micro POG for that matter, doing some pretty intresting organ tones.

They were always more of a church/pipe organ sound though which while cool, wouldn't be all that useful for me overall I dont think except as a novelty sound.


What would be really cool though is if it could also get some Hammond B3 type of sounds. Getting some nice sustains chords with a B3 sound run through a lesie or univibe would be just unreal.

I've not be able to find one locally stocked (I guess at near $400 they figure it wont sell) but I'm thinking this probably isn't possible but doesn't hurt to ask just in case

 

[PFDarkside]

Re: Can the EH POG do a B4 organ sound ?

I can get some decent B3 tones with a Volume Pedal - POG - Rotomachine, but it's a bit of a clichéd 'modeled' sound, but still a lot of fun to play.

I know the POG is a lot of money, but it's a really fun toy to play with. The detune and LPF features really lift it above a standard octaver. It's polyponic tracking is actully pretty amazing.

 

[millsart]

Re: Can the EH POG do a B4 organ sound ?

Don't know if you had a chance to try out the micro version or not, but if so, would you say the fullsize one is worth the extra cash ?

You gain the LPF, 1 octave down and 2 octaves up which the micro doesn't have I belive. Though I'm sure you could do a good deal with just the sub and 1 up, I'd almost feel better spending more and having all the features rather than $209 for the micro and feeling I'm not getting my moneys worth

 

[PFDarkside]

Re: Can the EH POG do a B4 organ sound ?

I have never played the micro but I want to say you also lose the detune as well. I really do think the detune and LPF add a lot to the functionality of the POG, I think with the micro you are just getting a really good tracking octave pedal.

OT, how do you like the Ness CS pickups? Where do they slot in compared to the other Duncan P90s?

 

[millsart]

Re: Can the EH POG do a B4 organ sound ?

The Ness P-90's are awesome if you want his tone. Through a marshall or modded bassman its just dead on SD tone. Normally something as simple as a pickup doesn't really have such an effect on "copping" a tone, but this nails it.

They are pretty similar to a SP-90 2 I belive. Maybe a little hotter and scatter wound by MJ of course.

Much hotter than a normal P90 though as they are around 14.9K so I think about twice as hot give or take.

Not terribly noisey though its still basically a single coil so its not going to be silent but not objectionable while playing by any means. Listen to the Live at Roxy disc and you'll hear them between songs.


Its hands down my favorite bridge pickup for rock styles. Ive got a nice C5 in my other LP and while a very good pickup, it just sounds a bit sterile and lacking.

P90's have a certain "mojo" that buckers don't, I really can't put m finger on it exactly but its just how you think a guitar should sound in your head. Very raw and organic.

Buckers would still be better for metal and shred styles but for dirty blues and rock and roll you can't beat a p90

Ness started using them after hearing Neil Young who I think heard them in Townsends SG so theres a couple generations of some just awesome straight ahead rock right there. Or at least guys who's tone I really always liked.

In the neck they really make a nice cutting clean pickup as well. Playing reggae type stuff they are really great for backed off.

Very clean and warm, way more than any single coil could do, but still cutting and not muddy like alot of buckers

I'm a fan you can tell lol

 

[the guy who invented fire]

Re: Can the EH POG do a B4 organ sound ?

here is a cool POG clip...the oprgan sound comes in at the end...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uk7sEa62gs

 

[jeremy]

Re: Can the EH POG do a B4 organ sound ?

whats a b4? i know what a b3 is and im not trying to be a jackass, ive just never seen a b4 other than some software

 

[the guy who invented fire]

Re: Can the EH POG do a B4 organ sound ?

whats a b4? i know what a b3 is and im not trying to be a jackass, ive just never seen a b4 other than some software

You now have me curious...I assumed it was a typo...no??

 

[PFDarkside]

Re: Can the EH POG do a B4 organ sound ?

98% sure it's a typo, the B3 is the physical organ, B4 is the Native Instruments Emulation Software.

 

[millsart]

Re: Can the EH POG do a B4 organ sound ?

Yep, just a typo folks lol

Darn laptop keyboards are so crapped for my fat fingers compared to my split ergonomic kb on the desktop

But PFDarkside is correct, the is a software synth program called the B4 which I hear is pretty sweet.

I actually used to have one called the Pro53 which was a software version of the Prophet 5 analog synth and it sounded really nice, almost like the real thing.

 

[PFDarkside]

Re: Can the EH POG do a B4 organ sound ?

I've got the demo for both. Just to clarify, it's the Rotomachine's dirt and swirl that help you get that Hammond grit. The POG by itself is more Pipe Organ than Hammond, but you can do a semi-decent Hammond. Also, a compressor before it helps to tame the attack and squeeze the dynamics into something closer representing the organ attack.

 

[millsart]

Re: Can the EH POG do a B4 organ sound ?

I don't have a leslie simulator but I'm guessing a vibe pedal could hopefully get close enough ? Not that I'm going to be trying to fill in at a gig in place of a real B3 player or anything. Good idea with the compressor as well, that and maybe a light OD could get it happening.

From the demo's I've seen the LPF also seems to tame a bit of the high end of the sound and give it a little darker Hammond sound correct ?

Really the sounds I'd be going for would just be some backing chords in sort of a reggae style, just a simple 3 or 4 chord repeating progression maybe to put into a loop pedal.


I'll be really curious to check out the polyphonic tracking as well. I've owned a bunch of octaves before and they've all be rather disapointing but this seems to track amazingly. That could open some cool new options.


Maybe I can get rid of my finicky Octavia effect as well. It can sound cool at times but I'd be willing to bet a simple octave up with a fuzz pedal would still work fine for those solos that call for the effect