Can you mod a single channel amp to have a clean channel?
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Pierre
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Re: Can you mod a single channel amp to have a clean channel?
Heck why not a Spider or similar? I don't dig their tones a lot but as far as SS/digital would go you can't find more versatile. Get the 15 or 30W version, set it to a clean channel and it doubles as a practice amp.
I'd advise going to your shops if you have one and trying whatever's in your price range.
Heck why not a Spider or similar? I don't dig their tones a lot but as far as SS/digital would go you can't find more versatile. Get the 15 or 30W version, set it to a clean channel and it doubles as a practice amp.
I'd advise going to your shops if you have one and trying whatever's in your price range.
fingerace
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Re: Can you mod a single channel amp to have a clean channel?
I ve read about the Roland JC 120 so many times.
I ve read about the Roland JC 120 so many times.
iekobrid
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Re: Can you mod a single channel amp to have a clean channel?
Okay, I just checked the Laney website. If your 100TI is the same version they currently list, it should have a switchable FX loop just not a footswitchable one.
Now I've never owned either product, so someone please check my figures, but I think a Boss LS-2 Line Selector pedal might do the trick for you.
http://www.rolandus.com/products/productdetails.aspx?ObjectId=150&ParentId=95
http://www.laney.co.uk/show_prod.php?title=GH100Ti
required cable runs:
1] guitar -> LS2 "Input"
2] LS2 "Send A" -> GH100TI "Input", front panel (Hi or Lo, up to you)
3] GH100TI "Send", rear panel -> LS2 "Return A"
4] LS2 "Send B" -> LS2 "Return B"
5] LS2 "Output" -> GH100TI "Return", rear panel
With the Boss set to "A <-> B" mode and the Laney's effect loop switch set to "Insert", you should be able to toggle between gtr-> pedal-> distorted preamp-> pedal-> poweramp (A) and gtr-> pedal-> poweramp (B). You might also want an EQ pedal in the B loop, since the amp's bass/mid/treble knobs will only effect the tone of the A loop.
Skipping cable run #4 (Send B to Return B) and setting the pedal to "A <-> Bypass" would also work, but then you wouldn't be able to use the B loop level knob on the LS2 to set the volume of your 'clean' channel.
Like I said, never tried this myself, so for all I know there would be all kinds of horrible feedback or hiss, but it seems like this is the sort of application the LS2 was designed for.
Okay, I just checked the Laney website. If your 100TI is the same version they currently list, it should have a switchable FX loop just not a footswitchable one.
Now I've never owned either product, so someone please check my figures, but I think a Boss LS-2 Line Selector pedal might do the trick for you.
http://www.rolandus.com/products/productdetails.aspx?ObjectId=150&ParentId=95
http://www.laney.co.uk/show_prod.php?title=GH100Ti
required cable runs:
1] guitar -> LS2 "Input"
2] LS2 "Send A" -> GH100TI "Input", front panel (Hi or Lo, up to you)
3] GH100TI "Send", rear panel -> LS2 "Return A"
4] LS2 "Send B" -> LS2 "Return B"
5] LS2 "Output" -> GH100TI "Return", rear panel
With the Boss set to "A <-> B" mode and the Laney's effect loop switch set to "Insert", you should be able to toggle between gtr-> pedal-> distorted preamp-> pedal-> poweramp (A) and gtr-> pedal-> poweramp (B). You might also want an EQ pedal in the B loop, since the amp's bass/mid/treble knobs will only effect the tone of the A loop.
Skipping cable run #4 (Send B to Return B) and setting the pedal to "A <-> Bypass" would also work, but then you wouldn't be able to use the B loop level knob on the LS2 to set the volume of your 'clean' channel.
Like I said, never tried this myself, so for all I know there would be all kinds of horrible feedback or hiss, but it seems like this is the sort of application the LS2 was designed for.
Axl H
Blowthebloodydoorsoffologist
Re: Can you mod a single channel amp to have a clean channel?
Come on Sune. I never really got the whole thing about having a clean channel!!
Distort that Ukulele Sune. Throw a EMG 81 in it, and you have the first Heavy Metal Uke ever built
Look into a JC120 if you could scrape together the money.
Come on Sune. I never really got the whole thing about having a clean channel!!
Distort that Ukulele Sune. Throw a EMG 81 in it, and you have the first Heavy Metal Uke ever built
Look into a JC120 if you could scrape together the money.
Sune
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Re: Can you mod a single channel amp to have a clean channel?
I probably could save up the money for a Jazz Chorus (would take longer if I was to buy a new one instead of a used one though). I rarely see any used ones for sale, but I'll try and look into what they generally go for.
Is there any difference between the Jazz Chorus models, besides the wattages? Is there any difference between the JC120 head and combo? They only sell the combo nowadays, don't they?
Come on Sune. I never really got the whole thing about having a clean channel!!
Distort that Ukulele Sune. Throw a EMG 81 in it, and you have the first Heavy Metal Uke ever built
Look into a JC120 if you could scrape together the money.
I probably could save up the money for a Jazz Chorus (would take longer if I was to buy a new one instead of a used one though). I rarely see any used ones for sale, but I'll try and look into what they generally go for.
Is there any difference between the Jazz Chorus models, besides the wattages? Is there any difference between the JC120 head and combo? They only sell the combo nowadays, don't they?
iekobrid
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Re: Can you mod a single channel amp to have a clean channel?
Nah, no more complicated than when guys have an effect pedal between the guitar and the amp, then another pedal in the amp's loop. Less complicated, really, since in your case they would be the same pedal. :laugh2:
Damn, that sounds complicated
Nah, no more complicated than when guys have an effect pedal between the guitar and the amp, then another pedal in the amp's loop. Less complicated, really, since in your case they would be the same pedal. :laugh2:
Sune
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Re: Can you mod a single channel amp to have a clean channel?
hehe, okay..But nobody seems to know if it actually works
(Is it weird for me to consider doing some punk covers on my ukulele?? LOL, I've been thinking of doing some ramones covers.. Blitzkrieg Bop, Sheena Is A Punk Rocker, etc..) I wonder what an overdriven ukulele sounds like :chairfall
hehe, okay..But nobody seems to know if it actually works
(Is it weird for me to consider doing some punk covers on my ukulele?? LOL, I've been thinking of doing some ramones covers.. Blitzkrieg Bop, Sheena Is A Punk Rocker, etc..) I wonder what an overdriven ukulele sounds like :chairfall
wixedmords
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Re: Can you mod a single channel amp to have a clean channel?
I bet Davey would say the ukulele could use a floyd.
I bet Davey would say the ukulele could use a floyd.
Jeff_H
Dean Hardtail Fanologist
Re: Can you mod a single channel amp to have a clean channel?
I really believe that you may be SOL (****e out of luck) in getting the type of cleans you want from your amps. I know you love that JCM 900, but if it were me...I'd sell that, keep the Laney and get something with the clean channel you want, and then A/B them.
The other thing you COULD do is contact Jeff Seal. He could pull the guts from your 900 and make it into a two channel amp, with stellar cleans and awsome OD. Just not sure if he is taking on this kind of work, or what the cost would be. He just pulls out the stock Marshall PCB board and puts in his own tag board. It's a completely reversable mod.
He did this to my 2 channel JCM 800. I now have an amp with Fender Twin type cleans and distortion that goes from Plexi to Jubilee/2204 type distortion.
I really believe that you may be SOL (****e out of luck) in getting the type of cleans you want from your amps. I know you love that JCM 900, but if it were me...I'd sell that, keep the Laney and get something with the clean channel you want, and then A/B them.
The other thing you COULD do is contact Jeff Seal. He could pull the guts from your 900 and make it into a two channel amp, with stellar cleans and awsome OD. Just not sure if he is taking on this kind of work, or what the cost would be. He just pulls out the stock Marshall PCB board and puts in his own tag board. It's a completely reversable mod.
He did this to my 2 channel JCM 800. I now have an amp with Fender Twin type cleans and distortion that goes from Plexi to Jubilee/2204 type distortion.
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