Capacitors

Xandeeno

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I’ll be putting 2 500k pots in a guitar (vol and tone) and am looking for a capacitor for the tone pot.
I have seen that 0.22uf is a good one to get but all the ones I can find say “amp capacitor”.
Can I still use it in a guitar?
(And also are there any other caps e.g. 0.47 that someone thinks would be better?)
If anyone can please link your suggestion (it’ll be shipping to the uk).
Thanks
 
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"Traditional" values are .022uF and .047uF. You don't want 0.22 or 0.47. Traditional values, again being .022 for humbuckers, .047 for single coils. Those are NOT rules. A decent film cap and you'll be fine. The lower the voltage rating, the smaller the capacitor size with the same brand and types of capacitors. Personally, if I were looking to get a feel for what the different value caps did to the tone when the tone pot is rolled off I would pick up some different values of inexpensive film capacitors ("Greenies" will do), maybe .01, .015, .022, .033 and .047. Those are common values. Once you find what values you like, you can experiment with "better" capacitors. "Orange Drop" caps are popular, especially in Gibsons. Mallory is another good cap for the money. But you should be able to find the "greenies" for cheap to experiment with for starters. They are typically a small, low voltage, mylar type capacitor. Common in a lot of import guitars. Here is an example of what they look like ... https://www.ebay.com/i/302468072114?chn=ps
 
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Great thanks, the pickup it will be controlling is a p90 but it’s a bareknuckle pig 90 (super high output 20.5) and it’s apparently quite dark. So I think I’ll give the 500k pots and 0.22uf cap a try
 
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Great thanks, the pickup it will be controlling is a p90 but it’s a bareknuckle pig 90 (super high output 20.5) and it’s apparently quite dark. So I think I’ll give the 500k pots and 0.22uf cap a try

I’m sure you mean .02uf. .22 would be total mud.

You can even try a .01


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A typical value for a Gibson would be something in the neighborhood of .022 uF (uF = microFarads, or 10-to-the-negative-6th power, if it helps you to think of it in scientific notation).

Fender used even more extreme tone caps: .047/.050 uF. But their pots were also half the value of Gibson's (in the old days; now both brands use approximately the same cap value).

Passive tone pots work by leaking treble out of the hot signal, in a controlled fashion, so it doesn't get heard in the end. This "leakage" goes to ground, which, tonally speaking, is the garbage can; that which goes to ground doesn't get heard.

To state it very simply: 1) The pot setting (i.e. where you place the pot shaft using the control knob) determines the amount of leakage. 2) The cap value determines which tones (frequencies) are leaked. 3) The greater the cap value, the lower the cutoff frequency gets - meaning that all else being equal, a .022 uF cap retains higher frequencies than does a .047 uF cap.

Stock Fender tone controls are actually quite dramatic, and I find them excessive. I generally use no higher than .022 uF caps in Fenders, and no higher than .01 uF caps in Gibsons. I even find that halving those values works great (meaning quartering the stock value). I do this if I want more of an aggressive cocked wah sound when I run the tone pot on 0, as opposed to a bassy, warm, muffled sound, like stock value, or, to a lesser degree, half stock value.

That being said, I find that stock cap values do indeed work better if you double the values of the pots, e.g. use 500 KOhm pots instead of 250 K, or use 1 MOhm (1,000K) pots instead of 500 K.

Personally, I would go straight for a .01 uF cap with 500 K pots.
 
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Great thanks, the pickup it will be controlling is a p90 but it’s a bareknuckle pig 90 (super high output 20.5) and it’s apparently quite dark. So I think I’ll give the 500k pots and 0.22uf cap a try
Buy a .47uf cap, also. You may need it if the pickup is really dark.But


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Buy a .47uf cap, also. You may need it if the pickup is really dark.But


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Heavens NO. Even if you meant .047uf, that's way too dark for a dark P90. I might suggest even a .015uf as a starting point.
 
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You guys are leaving out a zero. It’s .047uF not .47uF. That would remove just about all of your signal.


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If you know your way around a soldering iron, I'd recommend building two pairs of crocodile clamp cables. Or failing that, just buying some.then experiment with different values in between until you find what you like before you solder it in place.
 
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Just get some Orange Drops (cheap but good and easily available) in .022 and .047. Try them both. The alligator clip method above is fun too but they are easy to soldier enough that with only 2 values you don’t need to bother
 
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Just get some Orange Drops (cheap but good and easily available) in .022 and .047. Try them both. The alligator clip method above is fun too but they are easy to soldier enough that with only 2 values you don’t need to bother
I'd say that's very much dependent on the guitar. Something like a strat requires removing strings and then the entire pickguard assembly for swapping.
 
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Heavens NO. Even if you meant .047uf, that's way too dark for a dark P90. I might suggest even a .015uf as a starting point.
Well, my Strat with two Firebird minis, 500k volume and tone, and a .47 cap is very bright. Just like I like it.

He should get a .47 cap just in case. They're very cheap.

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If you know anything about Firebird pickups you will know they are bright, like singlecoils really. Its probably the .047 that keeping them from slicing your head off.
 
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