Charvel so cal / san dimas in HSH, so a pickup for the middle position

[always SD]

hello
i tried a so cal and a san dimas : very good moments with a Marshall
and i was happy with these guitars in the guitar shop
big guitars, big body

but the difference with a strat is that
the fretboard is slightly wider ( the distance between the 6 string and the 1st string (the neck) is larger? than a strat )
that's what i noticed like some people

it's not perfect : it's not a double cut !! but i tried a PRS se floyd: good sensations too !! and some strat sounds
mahogany but good clean tones: amazing split tones!! hard choice but

i read that the so cal / san dimas had a hole in the body true ?

in fact, these guitars would be ready to have another pickup in the middle position

so

do you know a pickup for the middle position ?
which pickup would you put to have the 4th position of a strat ?


there is SH1 or sh6 A SINGLE COIL PICKUP and sh4 or SH6

i think about a SSL2 (different sound compared to a SSL1? )


there will be split coils too

this guitar has good clean tones: i really don't know if the split of the sh1 would be good and interesting

 

[Lake Placid Blues]

Re: Charvel so cal / san dimas in HSH, so a pickup for the middle position

i think about a SSL2 (different sound compared to a SSL1? )

The SSL2 is the same as the SSL1 except the pole pieces are flat instead of staggered. This will work better with the Charvel's compound radius. Be aware, the SSL1/2 pickups will hum by themselves, and they may still hum with a split humbucker depending how the switch is wired.

do you know a pickup for the middle position ?
which pickup would you put to have the 4th position of a strat ?

I would want a pickup that sounds like the SSL1.

read that the so cal / san dimas had a hole in the body true ?

I'm sure the So Cal route can accomodate an HSH pickguard.

On edit: The reverse wound reverse polarity SSL1/2 should be hum free with the slug coils of the Duncan humbuckers as far as I know. They will still hum by themselves

 

[always SD]

Re: Charvel so cal / san dimas in HSH, so a pickup for the middle position

my question is :alder body +ss1+ sh4 (splitted) = the sound of a strat at the 4th position= middle pickup+bridge pickup or not?

that' s what i would like to know

i had a guitar with maple body +vintage rails+sh4 split and it was different

i am agree with you but finding a vintage single coil pickup with no hum is difficult

a lot of guitars have the STK S 4 but if you know other vintage pickup without the hum
tell me !

or a Fender vintage noiseless

i had the info with CHarvel and yes, the so cal (or san dimas) are made to have a THIRD PICKUP LIKE A SINGLE COIL AND it's a GOOD INFO !

to have THE BEST SUPER STRAT EVER : ) (even if there is no piezo lol )

 

[Archer250]

Re: Charvel so cal / san dimas in HSH, so a pickup for the middle position

If you want a true strat sound when split, why not buy StagMags?

Most HSH guitars will have that single coil quack in the 2nd and 4th position, but will not sound exactly like a strat.

 

[always SD]

Re: Charvel so cal / san dimas in HSH, so a pickup for the middle position

i don't know this pickup
it's a high output and bigger for the guitar body because it's an hsh and not a hhh
i don't want to change the stock pickups
just add a third pickup : single coil or not but to have the 4th position of the strat
= third pickup in the middle +SH4 split = 4th position of a strat

i would like to know if the ssl2 is different from the ssl1 to have the sound of the 4th position or not
i don't like the position of the plots? in the ssl1
because there is a difference of volume that i have never liked

 

[always SD]

Re: Charvel so cal / san dimas in HSH, so a pickup for the middle position

but it's a good idea

 

[Rockstar216]

Re: Charvel so cal / san dimas in HSH, so a pickup for the middle position

Short answer NO it will not sound like the 4th notch position. You need two singles for what you want.

 

[GuitarStv]

Re: Charvel so cal / san dimas in HSH, so a pickup for the middle position

Just to confirm . . . here's what it looks like under a So-Cal pickguard:

If you split the humbucker and use that split signal with a middle single coil it's going to sound very similar to a strat in the notch position.

 

[always SD]

Re: Charvel so cal / san dimas in HSH, so a pickup for the middle position

thanks but 2 answers very different !!

 

[always SD]

Re: Charvel so cal / san dimas in HSH, so a pickup for the middle position

dream =
i would like classic strat sound in the neck position = sh1 here ok
sh4 ok
- the 4th position of a strat = single coil + sh4 split

- the mix of the neck pickup and the bridge pickup = a sound of a telecaster

here, it will be sh1 split or not + sh4 split but i don't know if i will have this sound that i have with my strat with a push push for the volume knob

 

[Rockstar216]

Re: Charvel so cal / san dimas in HSH, so a pickup for the middle position

Not two different answers we said the same thing but in different ways. For what you want "the EXACT" sound of the 4th notch position on a strat you would need two singles. Steve said to get a very "SIMILAR" sound you can split the bucker and use the single with it but will it be "EXACTLY" the same sound no. Will you be satisfied with that sound is up to your ears.

 

[Rockstar216]

Re: Charvel so cal / san dimas in HSH, so a pickup for the middle position

You should get yourself a Stag Mag to get you the sound you want.

 

[always SD]

Re: Charvel so cal / san dimas in HSH, so a pickup for the middle position

maybe the stag mag
and i saw some videos and some people have more than 3 pickups in a strat
a solution ?

 

[Lake Placid Blues]

Re: Charvel so cal / san dimas in HSH, so a pickup for the middle position

If you split the humbucker and use that split signal with a middle single coil it's going to sound very similar to a strat in the notch position.

I agree. This is my experience.

would like classic strat sound in the neck position = sh1 here ok

No, the SH1 will sound like a humbucker. HSS would get you this, but it won't sound like neck humbucker if you also want that sound. Perhaps a stagmag in the neck only (SH-4 in the bridge) with a separate split switch for the neck pup?

 

[always SD]

Re: Charvel so cal / san dimas in HSH, so a pickup for the middle position

i have a vintage rails + sh4 split with a Steinberger gt pro deluxe and the sound is bad because of the guitar
but i don't have the sound of the 4th position of the strat even if i use svr1+sh4 split

i tried the Charvel so cal and san dimas: the sh1 was like a single coil
it was good, not amazing, just good

i know that a sh1 splitted= like an acoustic sound and not a strat sound

i can't have ssh because i would like to have all sounds
s and h in the neck position and the so cal can do that even if it has a sh1

sh3 in the neck? maybe
it's a rare mix of pickups

i think that i want a lot of things that i already have with my guitar

3 single coils= neck +bridge= telecaster
5 way switch
the neck pickup is a custom 69 so i can play like Nile Rodgers

but i would like a power like Clapton in the neck position or a little bit of shred too


the bridge pickup is a single so with the neck pickup = a telecaster sound

i prefer the neck of a san dimas than a Strat but a strat has no floyd rose and the ssh deluxe strat has not it too

so, it's complicated
i think that i will talk to my luthier but the so cal or san dimas has good elements to begin

 

[always SD]

Re: Charvel so cal / san dimas in HSH, so a pickup for the middle position

my first choice was= sh1+ EC boost? + vintage noiseless strat in the middle +sh4

it's the easier way to have a lot of sounds but i don't think that i will a have the sound of telecaster with the mix of the neck and bridge split

 

[Lake Placid Blues]

Re: Charvel so cal / san dimas in HSH, so a pickup for the middle position

Your right, it's complicated LOL. The problem with do everything guitars is that there's always something or many things it does but does not do very good.

One approach might be to use a single coil in the neck position but use a Clapton type boost on it and only it. Clapton uses the onboard boost on single coil voiced pickups to beef them up to humbucker levels. This way you can have a single in the neck position and transform it with the twist of a knob. Perhaps a master volume, master tone, and a third knob to turn up and down the neck pickup boost?

You can wire a superswitch to give you the neck and one of the bridge coils together too.

I had my H/H tele wired once to give:
1) bridge humbucker
2) inside coils of both pickups.
3) bridge and neck pickups (both in series and parallel to each other) together
4) out side coils of both pickups (tele bridge and neck together sound)
5) neck humbucker

This is a usefull way to go about getting most of what you want and it is still only H/H. It won't give you a neck single coil only sound though. You may find that the inside coils together make a useful if imperfect substitute, however.

 

[Archer250]

Re: Charvel so cal / san dimas in HSH, so a pickup for the middle position

If you attempt to make a jack-of-all-trades guitar, you'll end up with a meh guitar that's dull and boring. Best bet is to get ONE guitar for Clapton and ANOTHER guitar for shred.

 

[always SD]

Re: Charvel so cal / san dimas in HSH, so a pickup for the middle position

I had my H/H tele wired once to give:
1) bridge humbucker
2) inside coils of both pickups.
3) bridge and neck pickups (both in series and parallel to each other) together
4) out side coils of both pickups (tele bridge and neck together sound)
5) neck humbucker

good! i like that

 

[always SD]

Re: Charvel so cal / san dimas in HSH, so a pickup for the middle position

i look for so cal /san dimas users / a strat
thanks