Check out Gibson's so-called "Game Changer"...

[MojoMonster]

Re: Check out Gibson's so-called "Game Changer"...

Name one that is remotely in the ballpark of this monstrosity

Line 6 Variax.
Fender VG Strat.

Just not as fugly... but then given the amazing hideous "GOTW" that came out of Gibson recently, I'm not even sure if they can tell what actually looks good any longer.

MM

 

[John_L]

Re: Check out Gibson's so-called "Game Changer"...

Line 6 Variax.
Fender VG Strat.

Just not as fugly... but then given the amazing hideous "GOTW" that came out of Gibson recently, I'm not even sure if they can tell what actually looks good any longer.

MM

Hmmm I always thought the Parker Fly looked bad, but Reeves Gabrial's modern art fly as in your avatar always looked right.

 

[LedSabbath]

Re: Check out Gibson's so-called "Game Changer"...

Who cares, all newly designed Gibsons are prone to suck total a*shole. This One is no different. It's as simple as that.

 

[MojoMonster]

Re: Check out Gibson's so-called "Game Changer"...

Boy are the comparisons and logic flawed. Electric guitars are low-tech, organic, mostly wood, and were perfected decades ago.

Yes, but the US is a market based economy and markets demand growth and evolution.
The premise is that you can't make money giving people the exact same thing over and over.
And we're running out of the resources to mass-market that kind of product.

Same thing with amps: tube amp technology is hopelessly obsolete; they were predicted to be completely replaced by solid state amps many years ago. Do we want technology or tone quality?

The resurgence of low-cost tube amps aside, it used to be that you had to spend big money to get away from solid state guitar amps.
Emulation technology isn't quite there yet, but it's a lot closer than it's ever been and getting better all the time.
The future guitar players who grow up living on their smartphones won't think twice about playing a guitar that has that kind of functionality.

Give us a nice piece of wood and frets with rudimentary passive PU's, and we're happy. We do not want circuit boards or a state-of-the-art entertainment and communication center guitar. We want reality, not some simulated, virtual instrument. That's the one thing that is true. Maybe some guys live in the pretend world of Guitar Hero, but we play real guitars.

And my point is that *IN THE FUTURE*, that won't be true.
We're exhausting current tonewoods.
Most starting guitar players begin life with Line 6.
Smartphones *now* have tuners, recorders and amp emulators.
More guitars are being sold *right now* precisely because of games like Guitar Hero.

And while I don't disagree with anything you've said, aside from your assessment of my logic , the truth is that everything evolves and while Gibson seems to be intent on evolving into FUGLY, there are some things Gibson is getting right.

MM

 

[Powdered Toast Man]

Re: Check out Gibson's so-called "Game Changer"...

The fretboard looks like someone had melted chocolate all over their hands and then played it.

That's worse than the Fender Katana.

 

[MojoMonster]

Re: Check out Gibson's so-called "Game Changer"...

Hmmm I always thought the Parker Fly looked bad, but Reeves Gabrial's modern art fly as in your avatar always looked right.

I know, right?
And it's not even a stock Fly.
From what I read he had them leave more wood on the body when they were shaping it.
But he could have been playing a broomstick with bent spoon frets for all I care... I just love the kinds of noises he made.


MM

 

[astrozombie]

Re: Check out Gibson's so-called "Game Changer"...

Yes, but the US is a market based economy and markets demand growth and evolution.
The premise is that you can't make money giving people the exact same thing over and over.
And we're running out of the resources to mass-market that kind of product.


The resurgence of low-cost tube amps aside, it used to be that you had to spend big money to get away from solid state guitar amps.
Emulation technology isn't quite there yet, but it's a lot closer than it's ever been and getting better all the time.
The future guitar players who grow up living on their smartphones won't think twice about playing a guitar that has that kind of functionality.


And my point is that *IN THE FUTURE*, that won't be true.
We're exhausting current tonewoods.
Most starting guitar players begin life with Line 6.
Smartphones *now* have tuners, recorders and amp emulators.
More guitars are being sold *right now* precisely because of games like Guitar Hero.

And while I don't disagree with anything you've said, aside from your assessment of my logic , the truth is that everything evolves and while Gibson seems to be intent on evolving into FUGLY, there are some things Gibson is getting right.

MM

Guitar companies could stop making new models and the business would still go strong. most of us lust for designs from the 50s and 60s anyway.

 

[MojoMonster]

Re: Check out Gibson's so-called "Game Changer"...

Guitar companies could stop making new models and the business would still go strong. most of us lust for designs from the 50s and 60s anyway.

Like they don't already?
Have you ever actually *been* to a music store? (kidding)

MM

 

[astrozombie]

Re: Check out Gibson's so-called "Game Changer"...

Like they don't already?
Have you ever actually *been* to a music store? (kidding)

MM

its true.

question: how many vintage guitars exist? sometimes I go on ebay and think to myself, ****, where are all these 59 les pauls coming from?

its almost like guitar companies own them and sell them on ebay every once in a while.

 

[Jessie's ghost]

Re: Check out Gibson's so-called "Game Changer"...

sometimes I go on ebay and think to myself, ****, where are all these 59 les pauls coming from?

its almost like guitar companies own them and sell them on ebay every once in a while.

More likely they're counterfeits or simply air auctions.

 

[GuitarGuy503]

Re: Check out Gibson's so-called "Game Changer"...

Tacky..... lol. You'd think Gibson would go on forums and introduce new product ideas to see if theres any significant interest before they finalize it's release. Its pretty obvious this guitar is going to be a complete waste of time and money. This one will be discontinued in no time......

 

[infrared72]

Re: Check out Gibson's so-called "Game Changer"...

I watched the video with Henry unveiling the Firebird X last night, and I wasn't impressed. My perspective on this whole Robot guitar thing is a little different since I am a full time Information Technology Coordinator. I run projects with my team and provide tech support for just about everything in the school where I work. When I saw the Firebird X unveil video, it seems like they've just crammed a lot of technology into this instrument. All that technology is potentially going to get in the way if something fails. The different effects tones didn't sound that great, and unlike a pedal board you can't really swap out an overdrive for something else if you get bored with it. I know they could probably make a software update and you load it into the guitar over USB or something, but that just seems silly. So for me, the Firebird X is not a game changer and I was not impressed.

I do agree with some other posts that they should focus on making really good traditional guitars. Pouring resources, effort, and hype into all this robot stuff seems like a real waste. Even if I did like the Firebird X, I certainly don't have the coin to drop on something like that. I always thought the Gibson RD was pretty cool looking, so why not bring that back as a reissue and offer some different colors, electronics, and wood types for that instead of this Firebird X guitar?

 

[LtKojak]

Re: Check out Gibson's so-called "Game Changer"...

That headstock is not half bad, if it wasn't that it looks similar to the one Peavey uses in their JF models or Epiphone in their Masterbuilt models... it doesn't visually match the shape of the guitar...

Is it on purpose that this guitar doesn't look like a Gibson at all?

FAIL.

 

[brentrocks]

Re: Check out Gibson's so-called "Game Changer"...

Shaking my head in wonderment....

 

[Mincer]

Re: Check out Gibson's so-called "Game Changer"...

Guitar companies could stop making new models and the business would still go strong. most of us lust for designs from the 50s and 60s anyway.

Whew, that leaves more modern designs for me (except this one).

 

[dmandude123455]

Re: Check out Gibson's so-called "Game Changer"...

See, Fender has the right idea. Making those BlackTop guitars is gonna get some revenue for them. 450$ for great looking guitars, (I've been eyeing a black strat for a looong time) They're not making guitars that

1. Look like the person cutting it into shape was having a seizure

2. Have effects in them(That's why there's pedals)














:cussing::cussing::cussing:

 

[rjudo]

Re: Check out Gibson's so-called "Game Changer"...

:eek1::eek1::eek1:

At a loss for words...........

 

[n4m3less5]

Re: Check out Gibson's so-called "Game Changer"...

You people are all old! Get your ass out of the '50s into the present.

But all the joking aside, this guitar looks fine to me and I would play it, if I had the money.

Maybe it is not a 'classical' Gibson that almost every guitar player owns and loves, but hell, those get old too and change is sometimes good.

Before you bash me, I did own one of those nice sounding LPs, but I needed a change and change I got.

 

[AudioWonderland]

Re: Check out Gibson's so-called "Game Changer"...

none of the "guitar guys" i talk to about this thing like it

tons of studio / recording musicians i know love it in concept

Why would studio guys love it? AS a studio owner I can tell you being locked into one set of marginal effects is not something that I want in my studio. I want the flexibility to find the OD / Comp that works for a track. The Fireturd is the opposite of what I want in the studio.

 

[dmandude123455]

Re: Check out Gibson's so-called "Game Changer"...

You people are all old! Get your ass out of the '50s into the present.

But all the joking aside, this guitar looks fine to me and I would play it, if I had the money.

Maybe it is not a 'classical' Gibson that almost every guitar player owns and loves, but hell, those get old too and change is sometimes good.

Before you bash me, I did own one of those nice sounding LPs, but I needed a change and change I got.

6 pages of no one wanting this guitar and there's one person that likes it....


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