cloneing pickup's ?

gaijun

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hello everyone

im new to the fourm and i have a question ?

when one use's an EQ pedal to dial in a pickup's responce curve
what doe's this actually mean ?

i have a good guess its clneing a separete pickup with an EQ pedal or rack gear

and how do you graphiclly chart out a pickup's responce curve
is there a set curve to work with that may be helpfull when experamenting
with the curve's structure

any advise will be apeciated thanks
 
Re: cloneing pickup's ?

gaijun said:
ok now i know this is a question for the staff here !

Its not that . . . we just thought you were Walters for a second there. :D

I think the purpose of an EQ pedal is like any other EQ. You use it to "tweak" that perfect tone to match your system and the environment you're playing in. To some degree, you could use it to make one pup sound like another. Then again, you probably couldn't make a Dimebucker sound like an SSL-1.

btw - Welcome to the forum.

Artie
 
Re: cloneing pickup's ?

The ability of a graphic EQ (or any EQ) to "model" pickups is extremely limited. They are best used to enhance the pickup's existing qualities.
 
Re: cloneing pickup's ?

gaijun said:
hello everyone

im new to the fourm and i have a question ?

when one use's an EQ pedal to dial in a pickup's responce curve
what doe's this actually mean ?

Good question.. I´ve never heard of this, nor do I think that an external EQ (or even an onboard) would actually affect the performance of the PU itself...

i have a good guess its clneing a separete pickup with an EQ pedal or rack gear
This is theoretically possible but practically impossible, it´s what people have been trying to do fpor decades ;)

and how do you graphiclly chart out a pickup's responce curve
In a laboratory with a Scpectrum Analyzer

is there a set curve to work with that may be helpfull when experamenting
with the curve's structure
AFAIK no, though a Spec An will only show you the dcurrent Freq´-responseand not be able to change it anyway..... you need to add/remove windings or swap /add magnets to do that ;)
 
Re: cloneing pickup's ?

thanks guy's

for all your replies i seem to be confused a bit reading the amp tone site
actually i seem to have about 40 different EQ settings that i use and like but they are for different things like the EQ on your media player

some i use in front of my distortion and these may be partial settings of an actual 7 - 10 band eq setting and some i used behind my distortion as well as within it forming the eq / dist / eq chain
but nothing less works well for cloneing a bass sound or mids and high treble

i play through a carvin mts 3200 head and a crate and peavey cab's
if you idint know the peavey cab's have that sweet sound we look for alot
i think the ( Sheffield speakers ) maybe the best source to its sound
i use a dozen foot pedals or 1 guitar processor ( boss GT 6 )

there just so much to understand when your new and trying to find the best way to recreate these sounds is getting expensive did i mention im building a rack unit now i just gotta have it

and someone said my wife is gonna kill me if this G.A.S. dont go away
so what do you think i should be learning about
between EQ's and pickup's ? thanks
 
Re: cloneing pickup's ?

Zerberus said:
Good question.. I´ve never heard of this, nor do I think that an external EQ (or even an onboard) would actually affect the performance of the PU itself...

This is theoretically possible but practically impossible, it´s what people have been trying to do fpor decades ;)


In a laboratory with a Scpectrum Analyzer


AFAIK no, though a Spec An will only show you the dcurrent Freq´-responseand not be able to change it anyway..... you need to add/remove windings or swap /add magnets to do that ;)


People often email me asking about particular models of guitar gear. With pickups, I am most lost, because people use subjective language and not specs. Of all the guitar components, pickups particularly lend themselves to specs, in the form of a simple EQ curve. Pickups should be the component we are *least* in the dark about; but we have yet to take the systematic approach that is needed. Now that I know that pickups are basically equivalent to pre-distortion EQ, I am taking a greater interest in pickups and will spend more time reading these descriptions. But I so much would prefer to scan over a few hundred pickup response curves very rapidly, seeking the curve which I use in my pre-distortion EQ pedal.
 
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