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dc_mally

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i notice a lot of people ask what pickup to use to get THE metallica tone, now obviously its not gonna happen without EMGs, but which duncan pickup would get you closest?? im not gonna go out and buy em this is just curiosity as my axes are already duncan loaded.
 
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hi... i think the DD will give you a pretty solid metallica tone.... or the invader but apparently it needs some tweaking to get it to sound just right... ahah
 
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The Distortion, Custom, JB, Full Shred, or Invader would probably get you close. Of course, a Mesa stack will get you a lot closer, though :D

I've realized that without getting most of the gear (ie, the amp), a pickup won't make all that much difference when trying to cop a particular tone. It's not like you're gonna throw a pair of EMG 81s in a Tesco Del Ray through a Gorilla and say "I sound just like Kirk."

The Invader does seem to be pretty hit or miss with everybody. The people who don't like it hate it, and those who like it love it.
 
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james used the invader once and i think kirk used the dd, so one of those. Although the pickup doesnt really get you the tone. you could get closer to their tone with mesa stacks and some stock pups than with emgs or seymour duncans and a different amp.
 
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I, too, have been trying to get that Metallica sound. The Seymour Duncan Distortions work alright, and they certainly get you close to the sound you're looking for, but nothing beats the equipment that they use now: EMGs. Trust me; I've recently placed in a Seymour Duncan Distortion in my ESP LTD, and although it's a good sound, I know that that the EMG81 (The KEY to Kirk's sound) and an EMG85 or 89 combo would work wonders in getting you the sound you want.


So if you want close, go with a Seymour Duncan Distortion or even a Dimarzio SD. If you want the real thing, get a pair of EMGs and stick them in there. If you're a diehard Metallica fan, you shouldn't be too thrown off by having to change those Active Pups batteries so often; the sound is simply worth it.

I would also recommend you purchasing a Mesa Boogie stack or a Marshall Amp: I have a 100 watt Marshall combo, and it sounds brilliant. Also, if you have a Boss Metalzone MT2, I can give you pretty much the exact Metallica sound based on my own settings (It's the only sound I've been looking for for four and a half years now, I have a good idea ;) ).
 
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ex-250 said:
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good one, MT-2 cant get metallica tone only good for a beginner looking for a cheep distortion for a cheep tranny amp.

hey ex-250 (if that is your real name!) what do u think of your spider II?? i may be getting one as a practice amp so i dont have to lug a half stack arround.
 
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good one, MT-2 cant get metallica tone only good for a beginner looking for a cheep distortion for a cheep tranny amp.

Cheap Distortion? Hardly. There's a reason why so many people love and own this distortion pedal. Just because you don't approve of it doesn't mean that thousands of others don't. And I'm not a beginner by any means, it just gives me the sound I'm looking for.

And what the hells a tranny amp? I spent 500 dollars on my 100 watt Stereo Marshall Amp, and it sounds absolutely incredible. I couldn't ask for a better setup! In fact, the only reason why I didn't go with some huge stack amp is because I live in a college dorm and 1)I could never fit it 2)I certainly couldn't afford one of good quality.


Don't go knocking on others setups simply because we don't have the same thing as you do.
 
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well ive been told, the MT-2 is good now. must we all be politically correct nambys who "respect" each others decisions and dont say a bad word as it might hurt them a bit.

obviously my opinions offend you and we must all bow down at the alter of the mighty TDevilG.

and just for you a tranny amp is a transistor amp. and by the looks of it you have a tranny amp (which isnt a bad thing but in general they dont get decent dist which is why people put things like a mt-2 infront of them)

if i went arround knocking peoples setups that were different to mine i would be knocking evryone in the world probably, i would put money on nobody having the same setup as me.

comeon then give me the "exact Metallica sound" from a boss MT-2.
 
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The Metal Zone does have some good sounds in it, but if you're trying to get a Mesa tone, you'll be disappointed, the same way you would if you used anything besides a Mesa to get a Mesa sound :D

BTW, dc mally, thanks for calling the Metal Zone a cheap distortion, then saying you're gonna get a Spider II... good one :)
 
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The MT-2 is still gonna be highly influenced by what amp you run it into... I like the MT-2 I use one for quiet bedroom practice... But as far as it being the magic for Metallica tone... Its just not that easy... I mean why wouldn Metallica mess with refridgerator size rack cases and Mesa Stacks slaved into Marshall heads when all you need is a stomp box... I'm not trying to dog yah... I'm just saying I get much closer to a metallica sound running my BC Rich with EMG's into my MKIV than I ever did running using a MT-2 into a valvestate marshall... As to the original posters question I think the duncan distortion would be your best bet
 
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"comeon then give me the "exact Metallica sound" from a boss MT-2."


If somebody actually does want it, simply Private message me (I'll make sure to take a look and give you exactly what I have). It's incredibly simple and, although most people are correct in the assumption that working with the same equipment that the band uses will do you best in getting that special sound, getting as close to humanly possible with equipment that won't cost you out your ass is always a wonderful alternative, especially for a cheap college student such as myself. :)


"The MT-2 is still gonna be highly influenced by what amp you run it into... I like the MT-2 I use one for quiet bedroom practice... But as far as it being the magic for Metallica tone... Its just not that easy... I mean why wouldn Metallica mess with refridgerator size rack cases and Mesa Stacks slaved into Marshall heads when all you need is a stomp box"

Very correct my friend. Like I said, getting Metallica's sound through the MT-2 might not be ENTIRELY correct, but I can get you pretty damn close. Everything from the amp you're running it through, to the guitar and the humbuckers that are on it, even the slightest most minute detail will change your sound, as we are all aware. I'm just trying to help.
 
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JB_From_Hell said:
BTW, dc mally, thanks for calling the Metal Zone a cheap distortion, then saying you're gonna get a Spider II... good one :)

LOL!!!! :laugh2:
 
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early metallica tone is great. kill em all = great metal tone. ride had good tone and then MOP came around and they started slipping. everything after MOP has the same exact distortion drop tuning sound that i hate. also, it depends on how far ur willing to go for the tone. do u want something that will suffice or do u wanna spend some money and nail it?
 
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ok a lotta stuff been said since i last posted in here. haha...anyway- my bash head on a brick wall was not saying anything bad about the metalzone, i just dont think you can really get really close to Metallica tone using it. and as for the spider II, it wont get you a Metallica tone either, but i like it as a practice amp. like you said, so you dont have to lug around a halfstack (or bigger combo in my case)
 
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azzyazzborne said:
hi... i think the DD will give you a pretty solid metallica tone.... or the invader but apparently it needs some tweaking to get it to sound just right... ahah
+1
 
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itbepopples said:
early metallica tone is great. kill em all = great metal tone. ride had good tone and then MOP came around and they started slipping. everything after MOP has the same exact distortion drop tuning sound that i hate. also, it depends on how far ur willing to go for the tone. do u want something that will suffice or do u wanna spend some money and nail it?


ahhh nah dude....MOP is the greatest tone ever IMO. kill em all is good, kinda nasally, i really liked the tone on RTL. my favorite for a while was garage days re-revisited. .....and stanger is the only album that uses drop tuning (and their worst tone by far IMO)
 
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i agree with u ex but i really like that high nasally but full sounding chug hetfield gets on kill em all. just MHO. either way if ur looking for later metallica get a boogie rack or if early go for a 1987x RI from marshall. then crank.
 
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BTW, dc mally, thanks for calling the Metal Zone a cheap distortion, then saying you're gonna get a Spider II... good one

ahh yea but im only gonna use a spider II (if i do get one) as something to be heard over drums without lugging a half stack round my mates. i wouldnt be going arround claiming it to recreate a full blown mesa stack.
 
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TDevilG said:
Cheap Distortion? Hardly. There's a reason why so many people love and own this distortion pedal.
Is there a reason why so many people own Peavey Transtubes? :laugh2:

TDevilG, I agree with most of what you said, but I just HAD to poke fun at that :) Mainly because I have a Transtube myself, and it was one of the lamest purchases ever.
 
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