"Communication Breakdown" Tone
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ItsaBass
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Re: "Communication Breakdown" Tone
BTW, just to be clear, that tirade was not directed at you, MM. :smokin:
Chill a**, Chilean Sea Bass.
BTW, just to be clear, that tirade was not directed at you, MM. :smokin:
MetalManiac
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Re: "Communication Breakdown" Tone
Oh well, maybe next time. lolz..J/k . Some good ol point/counterpoint ,to a degree ,always brings up some interesting observations. Always enjoy reading yours!
Oh well, maybe next time. lolz..J/k . Some good ol point/counterpoint ,to a degree ,always brings up some interesting observations. Always enjoy reading yours!
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astrozombie
KatyPerryologist
the guy who invented fire
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Re: "Communication Breakdown" Tone
It's funny...around this time LL the Britt blues players were using Les Pauls...Page, Beck, Clapton, Koss, Green, etc then over here you had Bloomfield, Gibbons, Joe Walsh, etc and I think for my money Page had one of the thinnest LP tones of the day.
Another thing to keep in mind, a lot of guys at this time choose Les Pauls not for their tone but for the sustain they offered...players also LOVED that Les Pauls were so easy to play.
And Saladin brings up a GREAT point...with the coil taps and phase switches it looks to me like Jimmy was always looking for a sound that was closer to his Tele...
The biggest thing with Page thought has to be Beck...he started playing a Tele in the Yardbirds so he could be like Beck then once LZ got going Jeff had switched to a Les Paul so Jimmy switched to a Les Paul.
Sure, Zep outsold anything Jeff ever did really but as a player Page was always truing to catch up to Beck and IMHO he still hasn't done it!
It's funny...around this time LL the Britt blues players were using Les Pauls...Page, Beck, Clapton, Koss, Green, etc then over here you had Bloomfield, Gibbons, Joe Walsh, etc and I think for my money Page had one of the thinnest LP tones of the day.
Another thing to keep in mind, a lot of guys at this time choose Les Pauls not for their tone but for the sustain they offered...players also LOVED that Les Pauls were so easy to play.
And Saladin brings up a GREAT point...with the coil taps and phase switches it looks to me like Jimmy was always looking for a sound that was closer to his Tele...
The biggest thing with Page thought has to be Beck...he started playing a Tele in the Yardbirds so he could be like Beck then once LZ got going Jeff had switched to a Les Paul so Jimmy switched to a Les Paul.
Sure, Zep outsold anything Jeff ever did really but as a player Page was always truing to catch up to Beck and IMHO he still hasn't done it!
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Gypsyblue
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Re: "Communication Breakdown" Tone
Jeff Beck was my favorite but of all the guitarists in the Yardbirds, Jimmy was the best rhythm guitarist, IMO, and had the most variety of tones. That carried over into Led Zep. Jimmy has a heck of a right hand - plays the heck out of the mandolin too, as anyone who saw him in It Might Get Loud would know.
Clapton, at the time, was not a very interesting rhythm player and mostly played barre chords - no unique chord voicings or rhythms really. In fact, Ginger Baker commented on Clapton's rhythmic limitations.
Anyways, Jimmy needed a cleaner tone because he played more chords and his rhythms were far more interesting and advanced. A very creative and under rated guitarist, especially in today's post EVH world where kids just want to learn to solo and almost stop playing when it's time to play rhythm. I see that often at the blues jams I attend: everyone standing in a line onstage just waiting to stomp on their overdrive pedal and noodle.
Like I said tho, to each his own.
Jeff Beck was my favorite but of all the guitarists in the Yardbirds, Jimmy was the best rhythm guitarist, IMO, and had the most variety of tones. That carried over into Led Zep. Jimmy has a heck of a right hand - plays the heck out of the mandolin too, as anyone who saw him in It Might Get Loud would know.
Clapton, at the time, was not a very interesting rhythm player and mostly played barre chords - no unique chord voicings or rhythms really. In fact, Ginger Baker commented on Clapton's rhythmic limitations.
Anyways, Jimmy needed a cleaner tone because he played more chords and his rhythms were far more interesting and advanced. A very creative and under rated guitarist, especially in today's post EVH world where kids just want to learn to solo and almost stop playing when it's time to play rhythm. I see that often at the blues jams I attend: everyone standing in a line onstage just waiting to stomp on their overdrive pedal and noodle.
Like I said tho, to each his own.
