Confused with these 2x12. Why the difference in price?

[Diego]

I'm surprised to see these two similar cabinets have a large difference in price, and maybe I'm not reading the specs correctly.

Laney GS212PE: http://www.laney.co.uk/products/product_details/168
Hughes and Kettner TM212: http://hughes-and-kettner.com/products/cabinets/tm212/

Both 2x12 cabs. Both come with Vintage 30s. Both closed-back. Both look about the same deal.

"The TM 212 cabinet features two 12” Celestion Vintage 30 in a vented, dove-tailed birch ply housing..."
"...[The GS212PE is] Manufactured out of 15mm Baltic Plywood these cabinets are tone full, handles bottom end like nothing else..."

And yet, the H&K is about 50% more expensive.

What would I pay extra for, exactly? Are H&K cabs built in Germany? I'm guessing the Laney is MIC?
The H&K is rated as being 2 kilos lighter, which I guess it's not bad.

Is the H&K really that much better? Sadly I'm unable to try them side by side.
I'm a cheapskate when it comes to gear BUT I'm willing to put down some bills for a cab that will really bring out the best of my amplifiers. It's too much of a critical element to ignore IMO.

Also, if any of you has experience with these two, I'm waiting for your comments.

Thanks!

 

[Lake Placid Blues]

Re: Confused with these 2x12. Why the difference in price?

Both links go the H&K page.

15mm is about 5/8-inch. Most cabs use 3/4-inch or about 19mm for sides, top, and bottom. Yet the H&K cab is 2 kilos less weight? Does the Laney cab use a particle board baffle and/or back plate? Is that the difference in weight? Are the length, width, and depth more or less the same?

Might just be the difference in production costs.

 

[RealtyViking]

Re: Confused with these 2x12. Why the difference in price?

Prestige and branding. Similar to a Cadillac Escalade being more expensive than a Chevy Tahoe.

Look at an Orange 2 x 12 at $749 (31x21x15 inches)

Compared to an Avatar 2 x 12 at $388 (31x21x15 inches)

Both have Vintage 30s, similar styling and high density birch ply. The only difference is that Orange uses 18mm ply while Avatar uses 15mm ply. The Orange weights 69.7 pounds (31.65 kg) and the Avatar is 65 pounds (29.48 kg). So in this case the more expensive cab is heavier.

 

[Boogie Bill]

Re: Confused with these 2x12. Why the difference in price?

I'm wondering what the Mesa Horizontal Recto 212 cab would cost down there?

Bill

 

[Little Pigbacon]

Re: Confused with these 2x12. Why the difference in price?

I used to have a Mesa Horizontal Recto 212 cab. It was built like whatever they put tanks in to keep them safe.

 

[Diego]

Re: Confused with these 2x12. Why the difference in price?

I'm wondering what the Mesa Horizontal Recto 212 cab would cost down there?

Bill

Nobody sells Mesa in Chile and there's never been a dealer here. Probably about a trillion dollars.

 

[Boogie Bill]

Re: Confused with these 2x12. Why the difference in price?

Ok. Sorry. Too bad, because Mesa's cabs are some of the best in the biz. Really well built.

Bill

 

[Hank-]

Re: Confused with these 2x12. Why the difference in price?

Between the two, I'd go for the laney. Their stuff is usually cheaper because they aren't that popular i guess, but you shouldn't have any issues with the cabs especially since its the pro version that comes with v30s, where as the other gs212is comes with 70/80s.