Considering JAG wiring for old Univox Guitar

[FET]

www.univox.org

You'll find it under Guitars, UC-2/UB-1. It's the UC-3

My friend bought an old Univox UC-3 a couple of years ago and has been meaning to get around to it. Since it's basically an exagerated Jaguar design and she likes Jaguars anyway, we chose S-Jag Pickups. Vintage, Vintage, Hot but we never really got much further than that.

Not knowing then what I know now I didn't even consider all the possibilities in terms of wiring or switching. Now I'm thinking why not set it up with Jag type switching?

So let me know what you think of the current pickup choice and wiring/ swithing ideas. Does anyone have any suggestions? Is it possible to direct me to some good reading? I assume that three pickups yields even more options in terms of switching but I think that might be leaning towards the unecessary.

Thanks

 

[idsnowdog]

Re: Considering JAG wiring for old Univox Guitar

I wouldn't try to do the whole Jaguar switching options thing. It would get needlessly complicated and expensive.

I would shield the pickguard and control cavities and use mini toggles to get series/parallel/phase wiring ala Brian May.

 

[danglybanger]

Re: Considering JAG wiring for old Univox Guitar

Jag switching is complicated to wire, and would require a bit of routing to have enough room for all the options...

And an amazing 8 feet of wire :laugh2:

seriously. I want you to do it.

But there are easier things to do Anyways, you've found quite a catch... a jag loving girl

Slade

 

[FET]

Re: Considering JAG wiring for old Univox Guitar

Jag switching is complicated to wire, and would require a bit of routing to have enough room for all the options...

And an amazing 8 feet of wire :laugh2:

seriously. I want you to do it.

But there are easier things to do Anyways, you've found quite a catch... a jag loving girl

Slade

Yeah I know but believe me shes just as complicated.

 

[danglybanger]

Re: Considering JAG wiring for old Univox Guitar

then can I have her number :laugh2: jk. kind of.

Anyway what's the plan for the wiring? And pics? (of her axe, that is )

Slade

 

[FET]

Re: Considering JAG wiring for old Univox Guitar

then can I have her number :laugh2: jk. kind of.

Anyway what's the plan for the wiring? And pics? (of her axe, that is )

Slade

I have no idea. I havent really gotten into this area of guitar yet. I don't know the difference. As a result, when in doubt follow the Jaguar design. She wants it to be as close to a Jaguar as possible, really unique sounds. There is also one switch. I don't know what it was for originally but she basically wants to use it to be able to get a drastically different tone form the guitar. Any ideas? Even better, do you have any suggestions for reading? I'd like to actually learn about this stuff

 

[Artie]

Re: Considering JAG wiring for old Univox Guitar

IMHO . . . Jaguar wiring stinks.

Give me a day or two, and I'll give a couple of cool options. Both of which are much better. Trust me.

Artie

Edit: btw - Do you have 2 singles, or three. I'm not sure I'm interpreting your first post correctly.

 

[danglybanger]

Re: Considering JAG wiring for old Univox Guitar

IMHO . . . Jaguar wiring stinks.

That's definitely an HO I don't see why people get so boggled by the switches... and Jag wiring can get just about any sound you like, from mud, to icepicky high, to anything in between... but the best thing about it is the clarity.

The thing that throws people is the rhythm circuit. They wonder why they can't switch pickups and get muddy tone, when they neglect that switch's purpose entirely :smack: leave it alone, and it's just... normal.

That said, to get the jag sound you NEED 1 meg pots.

Slade

 

[FET]

Re: Considering JAG wiring for old Univox Guitar

It's three single coils. The pickguard pick up spaces are too big so we have to get a custom one made. I also noticed that it would require alot more than a little routing for the Jag set up and she really has no interest in that. As close as we can come is perfect.

Anyway someone said they'd offer up some suggestions? Every last detail is welcome. At least with you mentioning that I should use 1 meg pots, I can then go look it up and learn about it from there. At present it's just a confusing sea of metal, wires and switches.

 

[danglybanger]

Re: Considering JAG wiring for old Univox Guitar

3 pickups? if you want all the jag wiring options, I'd recommend using a jag control plate with 2 way switches, with one switch per pickup, and then adding a seperate switch elsewhere for the bright switch...

Really... I doubt you would ever use the rhythm circuit, it's too muddy for me anyways because it actually uses 50 meg pots... but if you wanted to do that, you could do it with a minimum of space by just using a dpdt toggle, and putting an extra knob (normal type, above the other 3) to control that circuit... that would leave you with four knobs, two for the lead section and two for the rhythm. Just make sure you have 1 meg pots on the lead circuit

Anyways... Yeah. Routing and pickguard will be tricky, but not impossible Post a pic of whats under that pickguard... lets see how much routing there already is.

Schematic is on the SD website. Wire her up :smokin: I'm sure someone can go into detail on how to shove the third pickup in the wiring scheme, it isn't complicated (but people can explain better than me :laugh2:

Slade

 

[FET]

Re: Considering JAG wiring for old Univox Guitar

The Jag wiring is on the the SD website? If its a variation what name is it under?

 

[danglybanger]

Re: Considering JAG wiring for old Univox Guitar

http://www.seymourduncan.com/support/schematics/jaguar.html

 

[FET]

Re: Considering JAG wiring for old Univox Guitar

I think I see what you mean. Anyway I will get you a picture. There is only very little routing and truly no space without doing some more. Theres a good chance that she'll opt for a simple way to get a similar sound with what is currently available. I'm simply exploring the possibilities. She'll probably be happy with it but I know that I'll be looking to do something very similar soon. She also has another one thats complete... but lame.

So I'll continue discussing it but do you have any ideas about how she could get a similar sound with whats available?

 

[danglybanger]

Re: Considering JAG wiring for old Univox Guitar

honestly. just do one meg pots to get the gyst of the jag sound.

Jags are bright enough most people don't use the bright switch (though I like it) and the rhythm section is clever and useful... but most people don't use it much.

And if you want the jag feel, jag switches instead of a 3 way or 5 way (though 3 ways can be nice in other ways... )

Slade

 

[FET]

Re: Considering JAG wiring for old Univox Guitar

Heres a pic from when I made a thread about a year ago. Actually it was two years ago. I'm embarrased by how little I knew then.

https://forum.seymourduncan.com/showthread.php?t=28448