Cool video about the life of the Tiny Terror

[Swampy]

Wish I could figure out how to post a YouTube video from my phone so it shows the video box, not just the link. Oh well....




Moderator Edit: I fixed it for ya, Swampy. - GilmourD

 

[skyydogg01]

Re: Cool video about the life of the Tiny Terror

Too bad it's being discontinued

 

[jmh151]

Re: Cool video about the life of the Tiny Terror

Too bad it's being discontinued

Only the combo is being discontinued

*** actually they are discontinuing the tiny terror

 

[Nostalgic Distortion]

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Sweet video man, it was cool to school up on some of the Tiny Terror's history, I use mine almost every day! You really can't beat something that gives you so many great tones & so much horsepower in such a small, simple, and easy to use package! The design is just epic in its simplicity & getting a look @ the original mock up sheet & inside one of the original prototypes was pretty awesome too! Now getting my hands on one of those prototypes would be even more epic but I don't expect they'll be turning up on Reverb or eBay anytime soon???

Even when I'm running another amp as my "primary" I've typically got the T.T. pushing a Greenback stocked 2X12 next to it. I like to set it to where it's just starting to break up (typically plugged straight in but sometimes with a E.Q. & Reverb pedal in front of it) so I can kick over to her via a A/B box for those dynamic "dirty cleans" while running one of my 6V6 amps for my "very cleans" with a good stompbox or two for crazy high gain dirt, metal & other modern distortion stuff?


LOL, I think I'd probably sell my sister for that hand wired "Shiny Teror" & matching Racing Green 2X10 cabinet!!! Holy $#!+ that thing is beautiful! I think the only way it could look better is if it were sitting in my living room!!! Oh, & to be fair I'd probably sell my sister for a handful of picks & pack of strings if you caught me on the right day!!! :banana:

 

[DankStar]

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Very cool to hear the designer's thoughts on it and how the gain works

 

[Swampy]

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I like the part when he says that he didn't want it any bigger than the paper it was drawn on. Kind of Spinal Tap-ish.

 

[jmh151]

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I love mine, for a tiny, light amp it gets a great 70's Black Sabbath tone, and adding a treble booster sends it into Judas Priest territory. It sounds meaner than a Marshall.

I'll be picking up a Micro Dark soon

 

[Mr Wolf]

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I'm surprised they're discontinuing them! I don't own one but I've had fun messing about with them.

 

[Gearjoneser]

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Interesting video. "First three AC/DC albums and Never Mind the Bollocks, that's what it does."

I guess that's why I like mine so much, although I consider it AC/DC to Black Sabbath.

I wish they'd replace it with the exact same amp, only bigger w/FX loop. "The Giant Terror"
This time, it should have two octal tube sockets for EL-34's, 6L6, 6V6, an external or self biasing circuit, and be a 30 watter in a larger head box. They'd sell a metric ton of 30W Giant Terrors.

 

[DankStar]

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I'd probably throw down cash on a giant terror, great idea.

 

[Lampy H]

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I wish they'd replace it with the exact same amp, only bigger w/FX loop. "The Giant Terror"
This time, it should have two octal tube sockets for EL-34's, 6L6, 6V6, an external or self biasing circuit, and be a 30 watter in a larger head box. They'd sell a metric ton of 30W Giant Terrors.

This is pretty much the amp people have wanted for ten years.

I don't really understand what Orange is doing. If I were in the market for a hand-wired amp, a 15w lunchbox wouldn't be my first choice. Discontinuing their most popular amp also seems strange, although there'll pretty much always be a used market for them.

All that said, the people at Orange are all much better businessmen than I, and know much more about the subject than I do.

 

[GilmourD]

Re: Cool video about the life of the Tiny Terror

Fixed.

 

[ex-250]

Re: Cool video about the life of the Tiny Terror

This is pretty much the amp people have wanted for ten years.

I don't really understand what Orange is doing. If I were in the market for a hand-wired amp, a 15w lunchbox wouldn't be my first choice. Discontinuing their most popular amp also seems strange, although there'll pretty much always be a used market for them.

All that said, the people at Orange are all much better businessmen than I, and know much more about the subject than I do.

Wouldn't be shocked if that isn't whats coming next. Give it a year, maybe two to get people missing the TT then come out with a bigger badder brother with many of the desired upgrades.

 

[Swampy]

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Fixed.

Thanks!! Mucho Bueno-er! Lol

 

[DankStar]

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I guess the odd part is, the albums he references are all done with marshalls, no? Or did the sex pistols use oranges? (Found an article - it was a fender). So its gain is based on a Marshall and a Fender.

 

[Gearjoneser]

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After seeing this thread today, I decided to spend the evening with a LP and SG plugged into the Tiny Terror/Jubilee 412.

The beauty of the amp is how sensitive the three knobs are, and the tonal characteristic of all the tubes breaking up in harmony. It gives that cranked plexi grunt with the gain under 5, then moves toward a highgain Orange sound past 6.

I don't really hear the Sex Pistols sound, but definitely hear Angus to Iommi.

 

[Falloffthebonetone]

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Interesting video. "First three AC/DC albums and Never Mind the Bollocks, that's what it does."

I guess that's why I like mine so much, although I consider it AC/DC to Black Sabbath.

I wish they'd replace it with the exact same amp, only bigger w/FX loop. "The Giant Terror"
This time, it should have two octal tube sockets for EL-34's, 6L6, 6V6, an external or self biasing circuit, and be a 30 watter in a larger head box. They'd sell a metric ton of 30W Giant Terrors.

That sounds like the Dual Terror a bit, minus the FX loop and with different tubes.
https://orangeamps.com/products/guitar-amp-heads/tiny-terror-series/dual-terror/

 

[Myaccount876]

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Interesting video. "First three AC/DC albums and Never Mind the Bollocks, that's what it does."

I guess that's why I like mine so much, although I consider it AC/DC to Black Sabbath.

I wish they'd replace it with the exact same amp, only bigger w/FX loop. "The Giant Terror"
This time, it should have two octal tube sockets for EL-34's, 6L6, 6V6, an external or self biasing circuit, and be a 30 watter in a larger head box. They'd sell a metric ton of 30W Giant Terrors.

Except that'd be an uphill battle from the get go. What made the Tiny Terror what it was is the simplicity. As soon as you start changing specs like that, it is no longer near the same amp. To have an FX loop that doesn't drastically alter the tone is a challenge - it requires a lot of planning for the buffer, deciding if a parallel or serial loop would be the most optimal, etc. That'd go against the premise of the TT - a simple amp to get a compressed respose and distorted sound from the power section at low volumes. Replacing the EL84s with any of the larger, higher max-wattage tubes will also increase the headroom - which may not be a good idea since the amp's only gain stage is V1 (the circuit utilizes the first half of the 12AX7 before its minimal EQ, then goes into its only other gain stage after the EQ). V2 is the phase inverter, so there's not a whole lot of preamp gain on tap. The minimal EQ is also still "needed", as it cuts extreme lows that the stock output transformer wouldn't be able to handle. The OT and PT are usually the most expensive parts on the amp, and you can't really cut costs too much on the PT (because your amp obviously needs a good power source to work) so cost cutting usually happens on the OT calling for smaller, less robust units. When you change to higher power tubes as well, you need to change both the power and output transformers to correspond to the completely new power section (first, delivering the different voltages required for different tubes, then being able to output the different RMS wattage). They'd probably need to add another gain stage in the preamp, revoice the "minimal" EQ, complicate the circuit even further with a well-designed FX loop, re-design the power section, change out the transformers. At - this point - it isn't even a Tiny Terror and the production cost is way higher (more thought required to design, more parts, more labor to manufacture, more expensive parts to accommodate the new design), but it'd be an awesome amp - because you described the already existing Orange TH100.

 

[Falloffthebonetone]

Re: Cool video about the life of the Tiny Terror

Except that'd be an uphill battle from the get go. What made the Tiny Terror what it was is the simplicity. As soon as you start changing specs like that, it is no longer near the same amp. To have an FX loop that doesn't drastically alter the tone is a challenge - it requires a lot of planning for the buffer, deciding if a parallel or serial loop would be the most optimal, etc. That'd go against the premise of the TT - a simple amp to get a compressed respose and distorted sound from the power section at low volumes. Replacing the EL84s with any of the larger, higher max-wattage tubes will also increase the headroom - which may not be a good idea since the amp's only gain stage is V1 (the circuit utilizes the first half of the 12AX7 before its minimal EQ, then goes into its only other gain stage after the EQ). V2 is the phase inverter, so there's not a whole lot of preamp gain on tap. The minimal EQ is also still "needed", as it cuts extreme lows that the stock output transformer wouldn't be able to handle. The OT and PT are usually the most expensive parts on the amp, and you can't really cut costs too much on the PT (because your amp obviously needs a good power source to work) so cost cutting usually happens on the OT calling for smaller, less robust units. When you change to higher power tubes as well, you need to change both the power and output transformers to correspond to the completely new power section (first, delivering the different voltages required for different tubes, then being able to output the different RMS wattage). They'd probably need to add another gain stage in the preamp, revoice the "minimal" EQ, complicate the circuit even further with a well-designed FX loop, re-design the power section, change out the transformers. At - this point - it isn't even a Tiny Terror and the production cost is way higher (more thought required to design, more parts, more labor to manufacture, more expensive parts to accommodate the new design), but it'd be an awesome amp - because you described the already existing Orange TH100.

I'll be damned, even has a 35 watt mode.

 

[Myaccount876]

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At least they're real simple circuits - easy to make yourself if you want one since they're discontinued. The parts are out there.