Crazy pickup question - two singles in one HB slot?

[GrooveHT]

Hey folks,
I'm going to be picking this guitar up soon (check out the image). Its an EB/MM Silhouette in H/S/H with a floyd rose bridge. I really dig the sound of a single coil in the neck slot, so I was thinking of replacing the neck hum (as well as the middle pickup) with a Kinman strat (AvN Traditional or Blues). But as I'd have extra room, I was thinking about adding a Kinman Tele neck in the neck slot too, and using a three way switch to go strat/strat plus tele/tele neck. Would this be feasable? Usable? Let me hear your thoughts! Thanks for the help...

 

[Jester700]

Re: Crazy pickup question - two singles in one HB slot?

Sure you can do this. I wouldn't use A5 pickups in those spots, though; with that much magnet in that space you'll probably get stratitis. I bet this is why SD went from A5 in their Mag bucker to A2 in the Stag Mag.

 

[GrooveHT]

Re: Crazy pickup question - two singles in one HB slot?

I believe kinmans are A2 magnets throughout, but do you think 2 singles, even as low output as those, would affect the string pull more than, say, an air norton neck pickup?

 

[Benjy_26]

Re: Crazy pickup question - two singles in one HB slot?

It's not the output, it's the gauss of the magnets (and their proximity to the strings) that causes string pull. You're idea seems feasible, but you might run into fitment problems. Personally, I would just get a Duncan Stagmag for the neck, a push/pull pot and call it a day.

 

[GrooveHT]

Re: Crazy pickup question - two singles in one HB slot?

It's not the output, it's the gauss of the magnets (and their proximity to the strings) that causes string pull. You're idea seems feasible, but you might run into fitment problems. Personally, I would just get a Duncan Stagmag for the neck, a push/pull pot and call it a day.

Thanks for the correction on my laughable electronics knowledge I'm not so much looking for the humbucker sound in the neck as two different singles, else you are correct, I'd be on a stagmag like a cat in heat :laugh2: I'll shoot chris kinman an email about fitting the two back to back and see what he thinks

 

[Benjy_26]

Re: Crazy pickup question - two singles in one HB slot?

Maybe he'll build you what you need, a pair of AVn's that fit together in a humbucker slot.

 

[DigBallance]

Re: Crazy pickup question - two singles in one HB slot?

I just put a Rio Grande Muy Grande humbucker in my bridge slot, which is essentially the same concept - 2 hot single coils up against each other. Humbuckers are generally constructed using 2 large bar magnets with pole pieces that stick up out of them to catch the string vibration. When a humbucker is tapped, it only give a vague approximation of a single coil sound. This is because a single coil's magnets ARE it's pole pieces. 6 slugs = 6 individual magnets = true single coil sound.

The Muy Grande is not an actual humbucker. When tapped, my guitar gets the finest single coil vibe I've ever heard. When in "humbucker mode", I get similar clarity and expressiveness, but with twice the power, fat mids, less highs, and a sweet hint of compression. And obviously, no hum - but the tapped coil is pretty quiet anyhow.

Good luck with it, man. I imagine you will end up feeling like I do, that you've found yourself a setup like nobody else in your town.

 

[GrooveHT]

Re: Crazy pickup question - two singles in one HB slot?

I just put a Rio Grande Muy Grande humbucker in my bridge slot, which is essentially the same concept - 2 hot single coils up against each other. Humbuckers are generally constructed using 2 large bar magnets with pole pieces that stick up out of them to catch the string vibration. When a humbucker is tapped, it only give a vague approximation of a single coil sound. This is because a single coil's magnets ARE it's pole pieces. 6 slugs = 6 individual magnets = true single coil sound.

The Muy Grande is not an actual humbucker. When tapped, my guitar gets the finest single coil vibe I've ever heard. When in "humbucker mode", I get similar clarity and expressiveness, but with twice the power, fat mids, less highs, and a sweet hint of compression. And obviously, no hum - but the tapped coil is pretty quiet anyhow.

Good luck with it, man. I imagine you will end up feeling like I do, that you've found yourself a setup like nobody else in your town.

Interesting...ok, ok, so I'm sold on the idea! Anyone see any other potential issues with putting two singles in a hum slot?

 

[theodie]

Re: Crazy pickup question - two singles in one HB slot?

It's not the output, it's the gauss of the magnets (and their proximity to the strings) that causes string pull. You're idea seems feasible, but you might run into fitment problems. Personally, I would just get a Duncan Stagmag for the neck, a push/pull pot and call it a day.

Right on!!!