damn it, this is why I hate floyd rose bridges

[Xeromus]

so I'm changing strings as usual. Get it the new ones on and tuning locks are secure. I noticed that instead of being approximately in tune some strings were a step or so low. So I figured I take off the locks and tune up to balance things out. Duh, I should have known better. Now I threw off the balance, action, and intonation of the guitar. I gotta take it back to my tech tomorrow and have him do it before I break something. At least I have two other fixed bridge guitars that don't give me headaches. Usually string changes on my Ibanez are a breeze, but this time I #%cked up because I wasn't thinking ahead. At least the guy I go to charges me very little, maybe even nothing for this one.

 

[Skullkrusher]

Re: damn it, this is why I hate floyd rose bridges

Don't feel bad. I've been there bro.

 

[beandip]

Re: damn it, this is why I hate floyd rose bridges

Try doing that when a customer is looking over your shoulder and you f*ck up, your self esteem goes out the window.

 

[\m/(00)\m/]

Re: damn it, this is why I hate floyd rose bridges

relaxe it happens to me tonight, i need to go see a local luthier to ask a very important question. it's always buzzing on the E string at the first fret, regardless of whether the ation is extremely hig or not.

 

[Hot _Grits]

Re: damn it, this is why I hate floyd rose bridges

you do use exactly the same string brand and gauge and change them one at a time? -if your floyd copy is set up well enough in the first place, you shouldn't have this trouble.

Floyds are a pain in the arse, it's true.

 

[Vasshu the humanoid typhoon]

Re: damn it, this is why I hate floyd rose bridges

Nobody could pry my Floyds from my dead cold hands :fing25: :saeek:
I never ever set them to float.....but if floating I always use a removeable shim under the trem in the 0 postition and then I just take one string at the time or all, no preference, depends on the guitar.
But I have used these things for a great many years, and they do not bother me the slightest.

 

[Xeromus]

Re: damn it, this is why I hate floyd rose bridges

you do use exactly the same string brand and gauge and change them one at a time? -if your floyd copy is set up well enough in the first place, you shouldn't have this trouble.

Floyds are a pain in the arse, it's true.

yup, ernie ball .10's, every time

Rid - I love 'em, no doubt, but they cause arse pain

 

[Vasshu the humanoid typhoon]

Re: damn it, this is why I hate floyd rose bridges

Heh yeah but not to me, you really should make a shim of sorts when you change your strings, it makes finding the zero spot way easier.

 

[some_dude]

Re: damn it, this is why I hate floyd rose bridges

I love my Floyd.

Never had that kind of problem. I set my own up though, so maybe that's why.

 

[7th Hell]

Re: damn it, this is why I hate floyd rose bridges

I still can't figure it out... You're using the same gauge strings and the same tuning yet your floating Flloyd is out of whack? Once you unlocked and re-tuned, the string tension shouldv'e returned to where it was originally before you tried to change strings. In a floating Flloyd, the strings act like a spring (countering the springs in the back rout of your guitar).

I'v been changing my own strings on my Flloyds forever, and haven't had that problem yet. I do wait a few days before I lock em' down though. I notice that the tuning has to settle because of the strings stretching out and the post windings tightening up.

While on the topic of string changing, I think it's good advice to condition the fretboard with a dab of lemon oil (don't drown it though). A light wipe of the frets with a tiny rolled up ball of 00 steel wool to remove any fret tarnish is a good idea too. Just be careful not to get any steel wool "hair" on your pups! They can mess em' up pretty bad!

 

[yes-fan]

Re: damn it, this is why I hate floyd rose bridges

i never really have problems with my floyde. i set it really really tight against against my guitars body. i never really feal the neal to pull it up. this makes it very easy to set up new strings and everything.

 

[kill your scene]

Re: damn it, this is why I hate floyd rose bridges

I can't think of a single good thing to say about Floyds. There are so many guitars on the market without them that any problem just looks like an excuse to abandon them completely. I know there are a lot of people who make very good use of them. Then again, I also know people who avoid them like the Black Death.... I guess it just depends on your priorities. You're definitely not alone, though. A lot of people have problems with those things.

 

[BornToShred]

Re: damn it, this is why I hate floyd rose bridges

I can't think of a single good thing to say about Floyds.

Me neither...

 

[Vasshu the humanoid typhoon]

Re: damn it, this is why I hate floyd rose bridges

Well they work.

 

[Rich_T]

Re: damn it, this is why I hate floyd rose bridges

My matre has had nothing but trouble with the floyd on his jackson, every time is messes up he gives it to me to fix. I hate the things. Give me a vintage trem on a strat set up properly and im happy, without tuning problems.

 

[Vasshu the humanoid typhoon]

Re: damn it, this is why I hate floyd rose bridges

How hard can it be to make an effort to learn how to use yer damn instrument??
If you want it simple, get one without or block the thing so that it does bloody not go backwards.....man all that whine whine ...you're getting on my nerves!!
Stop using them as floaters, they sound like $hit too when the hang there!

:laugh2: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :fing25: :dance: :smack:

 

[Zerberus]

Re: damn it, this is why I hate floyd rose bridges

I can't think of a single good thing to say about Floyds. .....

I can: properly set up, a good floyd is impossible to throw out of tune without purposely causing physical damage to the unit or guitar.

And considering that that´s EXACTLY what they were designed to do (and that they do it perfectly), the only bad thing i can think of is that string changing is a bit more time consuming. Note that I did not say harder, it just takes longer. Intonation adjustments are a pain, but if set right once, the saddle is going nowhere

The rest is preference. Some don´t like the feel, some don´t need/want a trem at all, others are perfectly server with a Wilkinson , Vintage 6 hole or Kahler PRO. But the fact remains that ther is NOTHING more stable tuning wise as a properly set up Floyd or Kahler. Wilkinsons with locking tuners come damn close, but not quite, there are a few cents difference sometimes ....

I play and own (on guitars) all popular styles of bridge, Original and Schaller Floyds, a Kahler Pro, a Wilkinson VS-100, 2 and 6 point Strat trems, Tune-O-Matics and Strat hardtails. I have tuning issues with NONE of them, with or without whammy use on the trem axes

 

[Xeromus]

Re: damn it, this is why I hate floyd rose bridges

you know, I think this whole Fubar was due to my tuner being not calibrated. :smack: Maybe the stress I've been under lately has made me overlook simple things.

I didn't think I was doing anything wrong, I got it set up just right now, using someone else's tuner. All that complaining for nothing, bah.