Deep Set Neck Tenon

[Warheart]

what does everybody think of the new Deep Set neck idea? does it have its merits? or is neck thru the ultimate way to go?

 

[KoreanGuitarMan]

Re: Deep Set Neck Tenon

Deep set neck guitars have all the advantages (stability, sustain) of neck-thru, but don't look ugly because the neck tenon is hidden inside the body. An archtop neck-thru would just look stupid.

 

[mrfjones]

Re: Deep Set Neck Tenon

it really isn't a new idea. the old (1950's) les pauls had a deep neck tenon.

 

[Blueline]

Re: Deep Set Neck Tenon

Thanks john
there are also different versions of the "deep set tenon"
the ida is that a wider, longer, and thicker piece of wood making contact with the gutar increaes tone transfer and sustain (i find that it does)
not to toot my own horn, but comparing a guitar with my neck pocket to a lp, mine sustain for considerably longer.
i just had a client tell me that when they recorded their album, the other instruments couldn't keep up and they had to fade my guitar out to match the others
so it works

that being said, some "deep sets" are different.
even the old gibsons, if i remember correclty were not the full width of the neck
mine are, prs are, and a few other companies use the entire neck width

i'll post a pic later

there are benefits to a neck through (this is deep set to the extreme)
but i find the drawbacks are too high
can't fix a broken/screwed up neck - must replace whole gitar
and honesly, what else coudl go wrong but the neck
also you can't mix and match body and neck wood. you can chang ethe wings that go ont the nekc through, but the pickups, and bridge and in the same wood as the neck so your kind of limited in the tone tailoring department

hope that helps

cheers

 

[KoreanGuitarMan]

Re: Deep Set Neck Tenon

Old Gibsons don't have deep set necks. They have a slightly extended tenon, but not a deep set neck.

A deep set neck tenon extends about 3/4 of the length of the body. For example, this Jaros neck:

 

[scooter]

Re: Deep Set Neck Tenon

Blueline. I think that you are correct. If I remember correctly now, only the old LP Jr.'s were made with the tenon being the full neck width and the pocket was tapered.

 

[kramer]

Re: Deep Set Neck Tenon

Deep set neck guitars have all the advantages (stability, sustain) of neck-thru, but don't look ugly because the neck tenon is hidden inside the body. An archtop neck-thru would just look stupid.

That's nonsense man, my kramer stagemaster is both a neck-thru and an archtop, and it certainly doesn't look ugly.
Matt

 

[KoreanGuitarMan]

Re: Deep Set Neck Tenon

Try stripping the finish off. I bet you it will.

 

[Blueline]

Re: Deep Set Neck Tenon

here's what i wanted to show regarding my neck tenon - and what I believe is a very long and very efficient neck tenon - its not neck thu but it allows more options

cheers

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v198/Gauge613/P1011712.jpg

 

[rspst14]

Re: Deep Set Neck Tenon

That looks like a great design...one of these days, I'm going to have you build something for me.

Ryan

 

[Blueline]

Re: Deep Set Neck Tenon

thanks ryan - i'm not the only one using this design, but the sustain and the tone is all there

lookin forward to talkin with you

cheers

 

[mrfjones]

Re: Deep Set Neck Tenon

i swear i start drooling every time i see a pic of one of your guitars, finished or not.

 

[Thames]

Re: Deep Set Neck Tenon

Hey !

The long neck tenon is a fabulous feature... but I cant stand Gibson not featuring it on standard products.. My Edwards (yes, again!) has it, sustain heaven.... :smokin:

 

[Quencho092]

Re: Deep Set Neck Tenon

a deep set neck wouldnt over brighten the tone either since gibson necks are mahogany as well as the body. does the tenon replace the portion of the body where the pickups are routed or is it dug into the body?

 

[rspst14]

Re: Deep Set Neck Tenon

Many of the designs I've seen involve the neck tenon going through the neck pickup route. I'm sure Blueline could give you more details.

RYan