Deftones + Axe FX = lack of balls and cut
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Agileguy_101
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Re: Deftones + Axe FX = lack of balls and cut
Funny, I've seen Animals as Leaders and Meshuggah and they both sounded heavy as ****.
Funny, I've seen Animals as Leaders and Meshuggah and they both sounded heavy as ****.
Van Noord
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Re: Deftones + Axe FX = lack of balls and cut
Yeah, for sure his Marshall rig sounded better. But I don't half mind the way his new tone melds with the songs on the new disc. He seems to be going for this spacey, haunting, romantic digital creature thing. I sincerely believe he is not trying to go for the same tone as his earlier work.
Plus he's high all the time so he is probably also just having a blast inventing textures with his new rig.
He'll eventually come back full circle though, they all do.
Yeah, for sure his Marshall rig sounded better. But I don't half mind the way his new tone melds with the songs on the new disc. He seems to be going for this spacey, haunting, romantic digital creature thing. I sincerely believe he is not trying to go for the same tone as his earlier work.
Plus he's high all the time so he is probably also just having a blast inventing textures with his new rig.
He'll eventually come back full circle though, they all do.
everdrone
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Re: Deftones + Axe FX = lack of balls and cut
ya, saw them and they sounded awesome! really tight.
I really dig the new deftones album, and he is no tone slouch as he tried matamp, marshall, mesa, 6 string thru 8 string etc etc
but ya EMGs and axefx being preferred makes ya wonder... certainly axefx is easier then a pedaldance tho.
ya, saw them and they sounded awesome! really tight.
I really dig the new deftones album, and he is no tone slouch as he tried matamp, marshall, mesa, 6 string thru 8 string etc etc
but ya EMGs and axefx being preferred makes ya wonder... certainly axefx is easier then a pedaldance tho.
Re: Deftones + Axe FX = lack of balls and cut
I saw Deftones live with Mastodon and Alice In Chains a few years ago.
Mastodon's mix was pretty terrible, but I can't blame that on them. Deftones were awesome live... huge sound coming out of that rig. But it didn't beat Jerry's Bogner/Friedman rig.
But then Steph had way more effects going, so there's that.
Masive tone or massive versatility... which one do you want? I'll say that both rigs, though very different, definitely got the job done.
I saw Deftones live with Mastodon and Alice In Chains a few years ago.
Mastodon's mix was pretty terrible, but I can't blame that on them. Deftones were awesome live... huge sound coming out of that rig. But it didn't beat Jerry's Bogner/Friedman rig.
But then Steph had way more effects going, so there's that. Masive tone or massive versatility... which one do you want? I'll say that both rigs, though very different, definitely got the job done.
Agileguy_101
Master of his Domain
Re: Deftones + Axe FX = lack of balls and cut
I saw that same tour. I noticed that the PA got significantly better as the night got on, which makes sense. Why would AIC give Mastodon an equal sound treatment? The headliner ALWAYS has the best sound.
I saw Deftones live with Mastodon and Alice In Chains a few years ago.
Mastodon's mix was pretty terrible, but I can't blame that on them. Deftones were awesome live... huge sound coming out of that rig. But it didn't beat Jerry's Bogner/Friedman rig.
Masive tone or massive versatility... which one do you want? I'll say that both rigs, though very different, definitely got the job done.
I saw that same tour. I noticed that the PA got significantly better as the night got on, which makes sense. Why would AIC give Mastodon an equal sound treatment? The headliner ALWAYS has the best sound.
Re: Deftones + Axe FX = lack of balls and cut
I know that, I just didn't expect Mastodon's mix to be as bad as it was. On a 1-10, AIC was a 10, Deftones was an 8, Mastodon was a 3.
I know that, I just didn't expect Mastodon's mix to be as bad as it was. On a 1-10, AIC was a 10, Deftones was an 8, Mastodon was a 3.
Rockstar216
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Re: Deftones + Axe FX = lack of balls and cut
AIC also run an iso cab so that helps a bit as well no signal bleed and they can turn up a lil louder. But can't get better than a Friedman or Bogner for tone. At first I was kind of skeptical as to how good those Friedman amps were.
AIC also run an iso cab so that helps a bit as well no signal bleed and they can turn up a lil louder. But can't get better than a Friedman or Bogner for tone. At first I was kind of skeptical as to how good those Friedman amps were.
xxxplorer
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Re: Deftones + Axe FX = lack of balls and cut
They were tight and ambient yes... But it just bored me to death. Sound was geared toward a clean cohesive mix and crispness. I'll give it to them that they sounded clear and you could hear it... But it just seemed to processed and bored me to death. They certainly don't suck, it's just not what I prefer. I got to see it for free so I can't complain. Sold out to boot. Kinda remind me of a modern screamo/metal pink floyd.
They were tight and ambient yes... But it just bored me to death. Sound was geared toward a clean cohesive mix and crispness. I'll give it to them that they sounded clear and you could hear it... But it just seemed to processed and bored me to death. They certainly don't suck, it's just not what I prefer. I got to see it for free so I can't complain. Sold out to boot. Kinda remind me of a modern screamo/metal pink floyd.
Grindspine
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Reload in 5
Just Ultimate Slacker
Re: Deftones + Axe FX = lack of balls and cut
I hate it when they mix that way!:chairfall
I hate it when they mix that way!:chairfall
DrNewcenstein
He Did the Monster Mash
Re: Deftones + Axe FX = lack of balls and cut
Having a piece of gear and being able to use it properly are not the same thing. With the vast number of Axe-FX users out there who are getting great sounds from it - including a laundry list of professionals like Steve Vai - I'd say it was operator error on the part of the guy holding the guitar or his "tech", and not the machine.
Having a piece of gear and being able to use it properly are not the same thing. With the vast number of Axe-FX users out there who are getting great sounds from it - including a laundry list of professionals like Steve Vai - I'd say it was operator error on the part of the guy holding the guitar or his "tech", and not the machine.
Re: Deftones + Axe FX = lack of balls and cut
+1
@op Why did you go straight to blaming the tools, and not the craftsman?
+1
@op Why did you go straight to blaming the tools, and not the craftsman?
everdrone
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Re: Deftones + Axe FX = lack of balls and cut
Meshuggah's new album entitled "Koloss" is ALL AXEFXII and sounds absolutely AMAZEBALLZ for that genre! Koloss song:
:bigeyes::duh:
For live music that is high gain (with minimal dynamics, very machinelike) and low end, Going direct is perfect to capture the low frequencies, and get a better stage mix too!
For my music recordings, I need lots of dynamics for fuzz pedals and heavy fuzzed out riffage. Still, I plan to have enough saved for the AXEFXIII when it comes out; its just simply the best for recording in a quiet library like apartment complex.
Meshuggah's new album entitled "Koloss" is ALL AXEFXII and sounds absolutely AMAZEBALLZ for that genre! Koloss song:
:bigeyes::duh:
For live music that is high gain (with minimal dynamics, very machinelike) and low end, Going direct is perfect to capture the low frequencies, and get a better stage mix too!
For my music recordings, I need lots of dynamics for fuzz pedals and heavy fuzzed out riffage. Still, I plan to have enough saved for the AXEFXIII when it comes out; its just simply the best for recording in a quiet library like apartment complex.
TheLivingDead
Dawn Of The Shred
Re: Deftones + Axe FX = lack of balls and cut
Not gonna lie, I thought it was his best tone since their self-titled album.
Not gonna lie, I thought it was his best tone since their self-titled album.
ex-250
Riffologist Extraordinaire
Re: Deftones + Axe FX = lack of balls and cut
Is the bassist playing a Dolphin? Looks pretty nifty.
Is the bassist playing a Dolphin? Looks pretty nifty.
Rockstar216
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Re: Deftones + Axe FX = lack of balls and cut
I wonder how does he scream and manage to keep his voice and ability all this time over the years?
I wonder how does he scream and manage to keep his voice and ability all this time over the years?
xxxplorer
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Re: Deftones + Axe FX = lack of balls and cut
I suppose I shouldn't blame the equipment... But I've yet to see a live band with a player that plays through one that sounds raw and has that 'cut'. It all seems washed up and almost 'too good'. Sounds like a recorded guitar and not a live one so to speak.
To some that may be great, but it bores me. I suppose the sound just had no character to me.
I suppose I shouldn't blame the equipment... But I've yet to see a live band with a player that plays through one that sounds raw and has that 'cut'. It all seems washed up and almost 'too good'. Sounds like a recorded guitar and not a live one so to speak.
To some that may be great, but it bores me. I suppose the sound just had no character to me.
Re: Deftones + Axe FX = lack of balls and cut
I posted this initial impression of an Axe FX when I first tried one a few years ago.
I stand by this assessment. A lot of the best sounding tube rigs have a good amount of outboard gear running in conjunction with the amp to get that huge sound and it takes a lot of time to dial in. I'd imagine it's the same with an Axe FX. In the right hands it can be a powerful tool. In an inexperienced players hands or in the hands of someone who doesn't really want to get too deep into it, you're not going to get all you can out of it.
And for the record, Friedman amps are amazing. At least I think so. I think he's one of those guys who just builds and voices gear a certain way that just happens to make me go, "That's the stuff right there." There's very few people/companies who produce gear that has that effect on me, he's one of them.
I posted this initial impression of an Axe FX when I first tried one a few years ago.
B2D said:
I stand by this assessment. A lot of the best sounding tube rigs have a good amount of outboard gear running in conjunction with the amp to get that huge sound and it takes a lot of time to dial in. I'd imagine it's the same with an Axe FX. In the right hands it can be a powerful tool. In an inexperienced players hands or in the hands of someone who doesn't really want to get too deep into it, you're not going to get all you can out of it.
And for the record, Friedman amps are amazing. At least I think so. I think he's one of those guys who just builds and voices gear a certain way that just happens to make me go, "That's the stuff right there." There's very few people/companies who produce gear that has that effect on me, he's one of them.
Johnny the Kid
Shaunofthedeadologist
Re: Deftones + Axe FX = lack of balls and cut
Trivium, Coheed and Cambria, and MEgadeth use them, and they still sound awesome. I don't think it's the Axe FX but the person using it.
Trivium, Coheed and Cambria, and MEgadeth use them, and they still sound awesome. I don't think it's the Axe FX but the person using it.
