Guitar Toad
Toadily Stratologist
How do you use delay or echo effects? Are they good for more that just psycho weird sounds? Have I understood correctly that well utilized they function as a "presence" or reverb?
Delay Echo Effects
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Nite_Maresz_25
on Elm Streetologist
Re: Delay Echo Effects
i use mine for mostly clean stuff. Like for verses and intros to my own songs.
i use mine for mostly clean stuff. Like for verses and intros to my own songs.
Nite_Maresz_25
on Elm Streetologist
Re: Delay Echo Effects
Look into the ibanez de7. Very good delay and its only 70$Thames said:
Guitar Toad
Toadily Stratologist
Re: Delay Echo Effects
How do you do that? or Rather, Is that kind of like pseudo overdubbing?
screamingdaisy said:
How do you do that? or Rather, Is that kind of like pseudo overdubbing?
some_dude
Raging BB Gunologist
Re: Delay Echo Effects
Not really....it's more like listening to an echo.
I set it to a couple of quick repeats so that when I'm soloing the notes kind of blend together, but not so much that it sounds messy. It takes you're guitar from sounding very dry and small, to sounding very huge.
I like using the tape simulation on my pedal (Boss DD-20) because it has a blunted attack on the repeats, so repeats don't overpower the notes you're actually playing. I use plenty of other settings to, but this one is my favorite.
Guitar Toad said:
Not really....it's more like listening to an echo.
I set it to a couple of quick repeats so that when I'm soloing the notes kind of blend together, but not so much that it sounds messy. It takes you're guitar from sounding very dry and small, to sounding very huge.
I like using the tape simulation on my pedal (Boss DD-20) because it has a blunted attack on the repeats, so repeats don't overpower the notes you're actually playing. I use plenty of other settings to, but this one is my favorite.
SlyFoxx
Glossless
Re: Delay Echo Effects
(First post BTW...hello everyone
)
Delay...used correctly it's a VERY powerful tool.
The basic parameters are...level, time and repeat.
Level is the ratio of original sound to the delayed sound
Time is the amount of time between the original signal and the delayed siginal (usually mesured in miliseconds or "ms". 1000ms=1sec)
Repeat is the number of delays you hear before they fade away. (each successive delay usually gets softer)
The delay effect copies your original signal and then plays it back at a certain volume after a certain amount of time for a certain amount of times before it become too quite to hear anymore.
Short delays...say between 20-150 ms can impart a very "metalic" timbre. Ever stick you head into a 50 gallon drum and yell? Short delays sound very much like part of the original signal and not a seperate entity.
Medium delays ...say 150-220 give a good "slap-back" kind of sound as the delayed signal is just starting to be perceived by your brain as comming after the original sound. (Say "one two" as fast as you can.) Where one is the original signal and two is the delay.
Long delays ...say more than 250ms...really start to stand out to your ear as being seprate from the original. This is where you can really come up with some cool stuff. By setting the delay time to a multipul of the song tempo you can create the illusion of many guitars.
Noted examples of long delays. "Cathedral" by Van Halen (Diver Down)
"Run Like Hell" by Pink Floyd (The Wall) David Gilmour is an absolute master of long delay...listen to the intro of the song especially.
"Sunday Bloody Sunday" by U2 ...heck...just about everything The Edge plays is filled with syncopated delays...New Year's Day is another good example.
Brian May of Queen used long delays a bit...check out "Now I'm Here" from Live Killers.
(First post BTW...hello everyone
)Delay...used correctly it's a VERY powerful tool.
The basic parameters are...level, time and repeat.
Level is the ratio of original sound to the delayed sound
Time is the amount of time between the original signal and the delayed siginal (usually mesured in miliseconds or "ms". 1000ms=1sec)
Repeat is the number of delays you hear before they fade away. (each successive delay usually gets softer)
The delay effect copies your original signal and then plays it back at a certain volume after a certain amount of time for a certain amount of times before it become too quite to hear anymore.
Short delays...say between 20-150 ms can impart a very "metalic" timbre. Ever stick you head into a 50 gallon drum and yell? Short delays sound very much like part of the original signal and not a seperate entity.
Medium delays ...say 150-220 give a good "slap-back" kind of sound as the delayed signal is just starting to be perceived by your brain as comming after the original sound. (Say "one two" as fast as you can.) Where one is the original signal and two is the delay.
Long delays ...say more than 250ms...really start to stand out to your ear as being seprate from the original. This is where you can really come up with some cool stuff. By setting the delay time to a multipul of the song tempo you can create the illusion of many guitars.
Noted examples of long delays. "Cathedral" by Van Halen (Diver Down)
"Run Like Hell" by Pink Floyd (The Wall) David Gilmour is an absolute master of long delay...listen to the intro of the song especially.
"Sunday Bloody Sunday" by U2 ...heck...just about everything The Edge plays is filled with syncopated delays...New Year's Day is another good example.
Brian May of Queen used long delays a bit...check out "Now I'm Here" from Live Killers.
Guitar Toad
Toadily Stratologist
Re: Delay Echo Effects
Great info. Thanks SlyFoxx.
Is there such a thing as a good cheap delay. Lets say <$100?
SlyFoxx said:(First post BTW...hello everyone
Delay...used correctly it's a VERY powerful tool.
The basic parameters are...level, time and repeat.
Level is the ratio of original sound to the delayed sound
Time is the amount of time between the original signal and the delayed siginal (usually mesured in miliseconds or "ms". 1000ms=1sec)
Repeat is the number of delays you hear before they fade away. (each successive delay usually gets softer)
The delay effect copies your original signal and then plays it back at a certain volume after a certain amount of time for a certain amount of times before it become too quite to hear anymore.
Short delays...say between 20-150 ms can impart a very "metalic" timbre. Ever stick you head into a 50 gallon drum and yell? Short delays sound very much like part of the original signal and not a seperate entity.
Medium delays ...say 150-220 give a good "slap-back" kind of sound as the delayed signal is just starting to be perceived by your brain as comming after the original sound. (Say "one two" as fast as you can.) Where one is the original signal and two is the delay.
Long delays ...say more than 250ms...really start to stand out to your ear as being seprate from the original. This is where you can really come up with some cool stuff. By setting the delay time to a multipul of the song tempo you can create the illusion of many guitars.
Noted examples of long delays. "Cathedral" by Van Halen (Diver Down)
"Run Like Hell" by Pink Floyd (The Wall) David Gilmour is an absolute master of long delay...listen to the intro of the song especially.
"Sunday Bloody Sunday" by U2 ...heck...just about everything The Edge plays is filled with syncopated delays...New Year's Day is another good example.
Brian May of Queen used long delays a bit...check out "Now I'm Here" from Live Killers.
Great info. Thanks SlyFoxx.
Is there such a thing as a good cheap delay. Lets say <$100?
SoCalSteve
New member
Re: Delay Echo Effects
Great info and WELCOME!
Guitar Toad said:
Great info and WELCOME!
Nite_Maresz_25
on Elm Streetologist
Re: Delay Echo Effects
both are very good for the money IMO. I played both when shopping for delay's and I like the de-7 better.
+1screamingdaisy said:
both are very good for the money IMO. I played both when shopping for delay's and I like the de-7 better.
Re: Delay Echo Effects
I usually use medium delay applied lightly to give the overall sound a more spatial, 3-dimensional quality. I bump up the level for a more prominent echo-delay effect. I have it on about 70% of the time but I only really bump it up huge for big-sounding solos.
I usually use medium delay applied lightly to give the overall sound a more spatial, 3-dimensional quality. I bump up the level for a more prominent echo-delay effect. I have it on about 70% of the time but I only really bump it up huge for big-sounding solos.
