Describe Your Dream Custom Made Amp

[jeremy]

Re: Describe Your Dream Custom Made Amp

assuming that im not paying for this:

3 channels all with foot switchable boost (something like a sd pup booster built into the front end)
1- bruno cow tipper (think best bf fender youve ever heard)
2- tweed fender/jtm 45 type
3- higher gain channel with a little more compressed tone and more sustain

a killer 3 knob tube driven spring reverb
parallel fx loop

3 switchable/assignable power sections
1- pair of el84 ~15w
2- pair of el34 ~45w
3- pair 6l6/kt66 ~55w

switchable/assignable 2x12 closed back and 2x10 open back cab

so basically i want something like the mesa road king idea done boutique and way over built. maybe a rotating speaker too

 

[Gearjoneser]

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That amp concept sounds good, Jeremy. That's kind of what I was thinking. Basically something that's laid out just like an Ecstasy or Diezel VH1, but with have your choice of 3 different tube power sections, or combinations.
I've always wondered why amp builders haven't created quadraphonic amps. Some may have, but my idea would be one stereo 4-12/w head, and on each side would be surround sound speakers....1-12's on PA stands. If the tone that came out of a system like that was beyond people's expectations, it'd definitely be my dream amp, especially if you could footswitch different channels, with boosts of added power sections kicking in, along with the ability to have your quadraphonic channels running at different gain levels or dry/effects.

 

[Bones]

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Because even if the sound would be very similar, tubes produce a different range of harmonics - especially power tubes -, so that in situations where SS sounds tend to get lost in the mix due to the other instruments' frequency range, a tube amp will stand out and your solos will be heard easily. According to Necropolo, the more gain you add with tubes, the more they sing. The more gain you add with SS, the more it cuts. He also said that when playing really fast, with a SS amp it's more difficult to hear the notes, than with a tube amp.

Maybe you didn't read the word EXACT.

 

[Lewguitar]

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Why wouldn't you guys want a Modeling amp that had dead on Tone accuracy? It would be cheaper to make, no tubes to change. Why are you guys stuck on tubes? If the modeling is the EXACT (saying that you have like a Line6 that sounded exactly like the tube counterpart), why not use that? It certainly beats what you guys are looking for, because you would have every amp in the world essentially.

I guess I most not be thinking straight.

Because they don't have dead on accuracy. Modeling amps have thier place and some sound pretty cool, and they may sound exactly the same to you (a 20 year old who probably hasn't owned real '59 Bassmans, Twin Reverbs, AC-30s and plexi Marshalls) but they don't feel the same as the amps they emulate to the guys who really know those old amps.

I've had a ball trying out various modeling amps and the range of tones is fun to have at your disposal...but they sound and feel "processed".

 

[Dom L]

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My Red Mesa/Boogie F-50, but
1. weighs only 30 lbs
2. built in power attenuator
3. solo swich (boost)

 

[Stratman]

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I already got my Little Jimi...

Single channel 44 watt tube amp using GEC KT-66 power tubes (Rectified) with super lush 6 spring reverb (Dwell, Mix, Sweep), Volume, Bass, Middle, Treble, Presence.

When I play through this amp Fender and Marshall guitar players turn they head around and drop their jaw bones...

Forum members who were at the Houston JAM should remember this amp...

 

[fusion101]

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I'm with bones, i would want the greatest modeling amp that had all the tones spot on and all it's effects were spot on to those they were modeling

 

[mrid]

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Because they don't have dead on accuracy. Modeling amps have thier place and some sound pretty cool, and they may sound exactly the same to you (a 20 year old who probably hasn't owned real '59 Bassmans, Twin Reverbs, AC-30s and plexi Marshalls) but they don't feel the same as the amps they emulate to the guys who really know those old amps.

I feel sorry for you older guys who tasted the nectar of the tone gods back in the day. Sure, you're ears were blessed with beautiful tones, but as time goes by, those tones become more and more out of reach. They say it's better to have loved and lost than never to have loved at all...well, I call bull**** on that! :laugh2: It must drive you insane trying to get a tone you like out of today's modern "reissues" and such. I guess ignorance really is bliss. :laugh2: Hopefully, you do have several oldies-but-goodies in your posession for the purpose of self-medication. :laugh2:

 

[y2stevo]

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I'm with bones, i would want the greatest modeling amp that had all the tones spot on and all it's effects were spot on to those they were modeling

I Concour..

 

[Artie]

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A Mesa 20/20, built as a Mesa 6/6, with a retail price around $200, would pretty much do it for me.

 

[seafoamer]

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Words wouldn't be able to describe it, but it'd be off the hook. yo!

 

[Hot _Grits]

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assuming that im not paying for this:

3 channels all with foot switchable boost (something like a sd pup booster built into the front end)
1- bruno cow tipper (think best bf fender youve ever heard)
2- tweed fender/jtm 45 type
3- higher gain channel with a little more compressed tone and more sustain

a killer 3 knob tube driven spring reverb
parallel fx loop

3 switchable/assignable power sections
1- pair of el84 ~15w
2- pair of el34 ~45w
3- pair 6l6/kt66 ~55w

switchable/assignable 2x12 closed back and 2x10 open back cab

so basically i want something like the mesa road king idea done boutique and way over built. maybe a rotating speaker too

I don't really know what I can add to that, except the trem circuit out of my vibrolux, pink paisley cosmetics and a built in power attenuator. I'd go for a pushed plexi tone for the lead channel.

 

[Hot _Grits]

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Oh, and the ability to switch negative feedback in and out where applicable.

 

[Lewguitar]

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Hopefully, you do have several oldies-but-goodies in your posession for the purpose of self-medication. :laugh2:

I do.

But you know what? When I was yer age (this is Pops Collins talkin' here... :laugh2: ) seemed like it was just as hard to afford the good stuff. Fender Twins, Marshall Stacks, AC-30's...all that stuff was just as out of reach cost wise for most players in the 60's and 70's as it is now. In all honesty, I think it's EASIER for you young players to get great sounding gear at reasonable prices.

All these Peaveys, Crates, Carvins, Sovteks, MIJ Strats, MIM Strats, Epi Les Pauls, the whole replacement pickup thing, etc. These are good times for young musicians on a budget, IMO.

 

[shred-dog]

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let's see 3 channel amp, el-34 powered 50 watt switchable down to 25 watt
snakeskin tolex soldano look so it stays cool and looks cool!!
chicken head knobs, controls for all channels , loop bypass , footswitch , reverb on clean channel only, tube or solid state recto,
channel #1= black face fender clean!
channel #2= marshall crunch!(plexi-jubilee)
channel #3= soldano slo lead!

with a matching open back weber loaded 2x10" cab for the clean
and a celestion loaded 4x12" bogner style cab for crunch and lead
in matching snakeskin tolex

 

[Bones]

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Because they don't have dead on accuracy. Modeling amps have thier place and some sound pretty cool, and they may sound exactly the same to you (a 20 year old who probably hasn't owned real '59 Bassmans, Twin Reverbs, AC-30s and plexi Marshalls) but they don't feel the same as the amps they emulate to the guys who really know those old amps.

I've had a ball trying out various modeling amps and the range of tones is fun to have at your disposal...but they sound and feel "processed".

This sounds retarded Lew. If the tone is dead on, why would you still want the tube counterpart? I am not talking about the ones available right now, I am talking about one that can get the SAME. EXACT tone.

I think you guys need to learn how to read.

 

[Hot _Grits]

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I get what you mean, Bones: not the available stuff, but rather if someone created a modelling amp that dead-on nailed all the classic tones perfectly WITH the right feel.

That's a big if, though.

I will say this: Jeremy's 'boutique road king' could be made right now, would be bulletproof, and would be able to serviced by any decent amp repair shop.

What happens when the ultimate modelling amp's processor chip gives out when you're on tour in Buttf*ck Nowhere?

And could the modelling amp model the differences between individual tubes?

 

[Falstaff]

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I don't really know what I can add to that, except the trem circuit out of my vibrolux, pink paisley cosmetics and a built in power attenuator. I'd go for a pushed plexi tone for the lead channel.

Jeremy's idea does sound great. Mine would have Minnie Driver sitting on it.

 

[seafoamer]

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Mine would have Minnie Driver sitting on it.

For target practice?

 

[B2D]

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This sounds retarded Lew. If the tone is dead on, why would you still want the tube counterpart? I am not talking about the ones available right now, I am talking about one that can get the SAME. EXACT tone.

I think you guys need to learn how to read.

Calm down man i get what you mean.

But the fact is i don't think digital technology will ever be able to reproduce exactly the sound of big glowin' glass bottles. Wasn't there a book published on this? Like the Theory of Irreproducible Results or something like that?

It's a nice concept though. Sure digital stuff is getting better all the time but its still just ones and zeros.