Diezel oversized 2x12 cab with Eminence speakers

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Just curious; I bought an oversized Diezel 2x12 cab years ago that came with Eminence speakers, but after looking at their website (back then), they're supposedly only loaded with Celestion V30's, and don't mention anything about Eminence speakers being an option. I was under the impression that V-30's were in there, but when the salesperson took off the back, they were Eminence speakers. To make a long story short, they sound like CRAP, just like the ones in Fender combos. Even the Soldano 4x12 loaded with Eminence speakers sounded like s**t compared to the Celestion-loaded cabs from the shootouts I've seen on YouTube. They sound muddy and like cardboard compared to the stock G12T-75's in my Marshall 4x12. Oddly enough, I've been seeing a lot of folks touting Eminence speakers on various websites, including this one. I''m eventually going to change the speakers in my Diezel cab, but to play it safe, I think I'll stick to Celestions.
 
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The eminence/fender special design speakers that you find in fender combos are nothing like eminence patriot or redcoat line speakers.
Its like comparing a squier to a USA fender.
Eminence make a wide range of really sweet speakers to suit various purposes. It really comes down to what sound you want most and then finding the right model for the job.
It sounds like you have made up your mind to get V30s for your cab...which are killer speakers and it sounds like that's exactly the sound you are after, but for future reference don't write off all of the entire eminence range based on those ****ty gold special design speakers .
 
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gibson175 said:
The eminence/fender special design speakers that you find in fender combos are nothing like eminence patriot or redcoat line speakers.
Its like comparing a squier to a USA fender.
Eminence make a wide range of really sweet speakers to suit various purposes. It really comes down to what sound you want most and then finding the right model for the job.
It sounds like you have made up your mind to get V30s for your cab...which are killer speakers and it sounds like that's exactly the sound you are after, but for future reference don't write off all of the entire eminence range based on those ****ty gold special design speakers .
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Actually, I might stay with the G12T-75's. Although they can be a tad sharp, they seem to be pretty balanced. V30's have the rep for lacking bass, and since I've never used them, I'm not sure if I'm willing to take a gamble on them. Since I don't have the resources to check-out the various higher-end Eminence models (other than what's on Youtube), I'll have to stick to what works best now.

Oh, so they're the Gold Special design speakers by Eminence? I didn't get a detailed look at the Eminence speakers in my Diezel, but I'm sure they're the Gold Special based on the tone. For 1K, looks like my Diezel cab is overPRICED as well as oversized :smack:
 
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I have eminence speakers in my 4x12 and I love them. Different strokes for different folks I suppose.
 
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I'd recommend a Vin 30 and a G12T-75. That's what the Bogner Ubercab comes with. They mesh nicely and fill out all the frequencies you want to hear.
 
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Gearjoneser said:
I'd recommend a Vin 30 and a G12T-75. That's what the Bogner Ubercab comes with. They mesh nicely and fill out all the frequencies you want to hear.
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Thanks, that makes sense. I was actually thinking about trying that combo.
 
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TheTranslator said:
Thanks, that makes sense. I was actually thinking about trying that combo.
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It's great, but you're way off about Emi's. Those speakers are probably a variation of the V12, which is somewhat similar to V30's, FWIW.
 
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TheTranslator said:
Just curious; I bought an oversized Diezel 2x12 cab years ago that came with Eminence speakers, but after looking at their website (back then), they're supposedly only loaded with Celestion V30's, and don't mention anything about Eminence speakers being an option. I was under the impression that V-30's were in there, but when the salesperson took off the back, they were Eminence speakers. To make a long story short, they sound like CRAP, just like the ones in Fender combos. Even the Soldano 4x12 loaded with Eminence speakers sounded like s**t compared to the Celestion-loaded cabs from the shootouts I've seen on YouTube. They sound muddy and like cardboard compared to the stock G12T-75's in my Marshall 4x12. Oddly enough, I've been seeing a lot of folks touting Eminence speakers on various websites, including this one. I''m eventually going to change the speakers in my Diezel cab, but to play it safe, I think I'll stick to Celestions.
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The Chevy rental overheated in the parking lot.
Chevy is crap, will never buy again.
Sound familiar.? :)
 
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I love my Eminence Swamp Thang. Fender Performer 100W combo. 1x12.
Nice tight bass, great for chugging.Also sounds amazingly clear and sparkly with my Start.
 
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TheTranslator said:
Actually, I might stay with the G12T-75's. Although they can be a tad sharp, they seem to be pretty balanced. V30's have the rep for lacking bass, and since I've never used them, I'm not sure if I'm willing to take a gamble on them. Since I don't have the resources to check-out the various higher-end Eminence models (other than what's on Youtube), I'll have to stick to what works best now.

Oh, so they're the Gold Special design speakers by Eminence? I didn't get a detailed look at the Eminence speakers in my Diezel, but I'm sure they're the Gold Special based on the tone. For 1K, looks like my Diezel cab is overPRICED as well as oversized :smack:
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if you want something that is meatier than a v30 and less scooped and fizzy than a g12t - check out the g12k100 (or the older version called the g12H100). Its like both speakers grew up and put on some muscle.
 
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This thread makes me lol.

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gibson175 said:
if you want something that is meatier than a v30 and less scooped and fizzy than a g12t - check out the g12k100 (or the older version called the g12H100). Its like both speakers grew up and put on some muscle.
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I'll check out the YouTube demos on this model. Thanks for the suggestion.
 
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I'll take my Celestions over any other 12" speaker I've ever owned. And I've owned a lot of 12" speakers: old Jensens, new Jensens, JBL's, Electro Voice, Emi's, etc. Celestions have been my go to 12" speakers for the last 40 years or more.

Only reason I can see to use anything other than Celestions is if you've just got to have something that's cheaper.
 
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