Is that a swear word? I have several Line 6 digital amps and for my playing (only at home now), they do very well. I have a Laney all tube, a '95 Hughes and Kettner Tri-Amp combo (only 500 combos made) and a Peavey classic 50 w/4x10 as well as some others, but the 2 Line 6 AX2-212's and the latest, a Vetta II, sound pretty good for digital (non-tube) amps. Does anyone else use these? Also has anyone listened to the new Line 6 Spider valve amps?