Digital tuners question

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Willy25

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I have two digital tuners.. one Snark that clips on and the other is a normal Korg tuner. I see that both dont match when i try a guitar.. Its like a bit off visa versa.. So how do i know which is correct ?? Or all brands are different?? The snark uses the vibration function and the korg the mic..
 
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How far off are they? If it's minor it might just be factory tolerances, if it's any more than ~1/2 cent it could be a damaged or faulty unit.
 
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Korg Tuners are generally +/- 1 cent; from what I can find the Snark tuners are +/- 2.5 cents. At worst case those two tuners could disagree by up to 3.5 cents. I have a few clip-ons, as well as a Korg Pitchblack on my board and a Sonic Research Turbo Tuner. The clip-ons are good enough for tuning quickly if I'm playing by myself, but I don't trust it to be accurate enough for playing with a group. OTOH the Korg Pitchblack is fine for playing, but I wouldn't use it for intonation. The Turbo Tuner is a finicky PITA to tune with, but it's accurate to .02 cents so I use it for intonation and tuning while recording.
 
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Yeah its just minor but u can hear the difference when playing, ill try my keyboard lol (should of thought of that first) and see which one is right.
 
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I think it's just normal deviation between tuners, with the +/- of each that has already been mentioned. I suggest investing in a tuner with a much smaller deviation percentage. I have a TC Electronics Poly Tune.... it has a chromatic +/- of 0.5 and a 0.02 +/- in strobe mode; and it's a clip on. I think I paid $50 for it. It's probably not good enough for pro level intonation, but I don't need that.
 
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My Epi don't like the Snark at all
Won't tune to it
If I have one in the signal chain
I take it's word first
 
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I like the PolyTune stuff, too. I had an original PolyTune, I’ve been using the Clip as my only tuner for a couple of years, and I’m about to buy a PolyTune 3 pedal for just no real reason other than I want one.
 
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I use a $10 Snark on the work bench and a Korg PB on the board (turbo tune on other)
 
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I use an app called AP Tuner, which is accurate to .1 of a cent. Most other tuners say I am in tune, but I hear it, especially on the G string for some reason.
 
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Jeff_H said:
I think it's just normal deviation between tuners, with the +/- of each that has already been mentioned. I suggest investing in a tuner with a much smaller deviation percentage. I have a TC Electronics Poly Tune.... it has a chromatic +/- of 0.5 and a 0.02 +/- in strobe mode; and it's a clip on. I think I paid $50 for it. It's probably not good enough for pro level intonation, but I don't need that.
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How do you even tune that precisely?

Once you're within +/- 1 cents, the pitch depends on how you fret. If you you can apply consistent pressure across all strings to get under that, can you do that when you play?
 
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Jacew said:
How do you even tune that precisely?

Once you're within +/- 1 cents, the pitch depends on how you fret. If you you can apply consistent pressure across all strings to get under that, can you do that when you play?
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I can't answer that because I'm not talented enough on guitar or up enough on technical stuff to know. I would have no need to require that level of precision. Even if I did, I know I couldn't maintain constant pressure on all frets. I like to get in tune as close as is possible and then just play.
 
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Jeff_H said:
I can't answer that because I'm not talented enough on guitar or up enough on technical stuff to know. I would have no need to require that level of precision. Even if I did, I know I couldn't maintain constant pressure on all frets. I like to get in tune as close as is possible and then just play.
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Didn't meant you exactly, I just wondered in a general sense.

I can't get closer than +/- 1 cent when tuning either no matter what tuner. However, when playing, it's much easier to keep tuning around 0,5 cents by fretting as you can hear the dissonance. So there's no need for "perfect" tuning anyway...
 
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I grew up playing on front poarchs with tobacco spitting rednecks playing flat top guitars and fiddles
That were " tuned to each other "

Nary a tuner in sight

BB King never tuned Lucille
He just bent the notes up where he wanted them
 
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I’m not BB King. I need a tuner, so I’d might as well get a good one.
 
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Jimi Hendrix would often start a song in tune and finish out of tune. It's that gosh darn new fangled "synchronized tremolo" he got on it. He even said at Woodstock: "What the hell, cowboys are the only ones who stay in tune, anyway..."
 
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Some tuners grab a more significant signal of data to analyze than others. This is why you will see a fast and slow setting on higher end tuners. When tuning my guitar, I use whatever is available. When setting my intonation, I use my Korg Pedal, Korg rack and a clip on at the same time when dialing in my guitars. I picked up this trick from a legendary tech.
 
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I realized Snarks weren’t good enough to set intonation, you need something more precise. I then realized that sometimes after tuning with a Snark I was still a little off and having to slightly adjust. Not terrible, but it may as well be closer if you are tuning. Now I have a pedal tuner.
 
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