Digitech - The Weapon
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Hey now, Digitech makes good stuff.... well they dont, but I use my RP100 for delay/modulation and its pretty decent.
Hey now, Digitech makes good stuff.... well they dont, but I use my RP100 for delay/modulation and its pretty decent.
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If you're playing in your bedroom and into nu-metal it may be somewhat fun until your tastes mature.
Seriously.
Basically all it is is a few preset distortion sounds (the best of which is just a saved, somewhat tweakable Metal Master setting) and some weird modulation effects.
If you're playing in your bedroom and into nu-metal it may be somewhat fun until your tastes mature.
Seriously.
Basically all it is is a few preset distortion sounds (the best of which is just a saved, somewhat tweakable Metal Master setting) and some weird modulation effects.
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Thames
Great White Malice
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Digitech X-Series pedals are probably the worst ever made... they are sooooo cheaply built. A good friend of mine works in a music store... they received a batch one day, 3 out of 10 had defective swtiches....
We both had a Digiverb and sold them back.... very cheap.
Digitech X-Series pedals are probably the worst ever made... they are sooooo cheaply built. A good friend of mine works in a music store... they received a batch one day, 3 out of 10 had defective swtiches....
We both had a Digiverb and sold them back.... very cheap.
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No offence to most of the people who have just posted, but i dont think it is fair to rate the pedal unless you have used it fairly extensively, at home and live. I bought one about 3 weeks ago, and have gigged and used it in my bedroom.
There are seven presets altogether:
1 is a bog-standard nu-metal distortion - if you like the disturbed type nu metal sound you will like it, but bear in mind as with all the distortions in this unit that you cant control the amount of gain - so none of the 3 distortion sounds in th pedal will give you anything like a more classic rock sound for example. Also, you cant control the mids on the pedal, and the distortions are all very scooped sounding.
2 is a much lighter, rolled-back kind of gain, which works well.
3 is a phaser, though t sounds very different to my phase 90 and small stone. It is slightly more cutting, and works well with gain.
4 is a distorted wah sound that works very well for leads(if you done have a wah pedal)
5 - is a octave shifter - you can go up or down two octaves or one octave.
6 is a sitar simulator. It is not perfect, but is as good as you are likely to get with a guitar.
7 is the metal sound that is based on the digitech metal master. Again, it will only give you a metal sound as you cant change the gain level, but if you like that sort of thing it sounds absolutely huge - you can get a very good pantera type gain out of this.
What i love about it i you get seven useable sounds, all very different, in a small single effect sized stompbox. Three of them - the phase, sitar simulator and octaver were all effects that are useful to me and so i bought it.
But what i really didnt like is the fact that some of the effects (esp the distortions and sitar simulator) sound very bright/ harsh when you turn it up (play live). In the case of the sitar sim there is no eq on the pedal.
If you are thinking of buying it then ask yourself this: how many of the effects on it do you actually really want. If it is most of them, then it is very useful to have all those sounds in a small size pedal, especially as they are all high quality.
If it is only say two or three of them, then i think you are better off with indvidual effects pedals.
No offence to most of the people who have just posted, but i dont think it is fair to rate the pedal unless you have used it fairly extensively, at home and live. I bought one about 3 weeks ago, and have gigged and used it in my bedroom.
There are seven presets altogether:
1 is a bog-standard nu-metal distortion - if you like the disturbed type nu metal sound you will like it, but bear in mind as with all the distortions in this unit that you cant control the amount of gain - so none of the 3 distortion sounds in th pedal will give you anything like a more classic rock sound for example. Also, you cant control the mids on the pedal, and the distortions are all very scooped sounding.
2 is a much lighter, rolled-back kind of gain, which works well.
3 is a phaser, though t sounds very different to my phase 90 and small stone. It is slightly more cutting, and works well with gain.
4 is a distorted wah sound that works very well for leads(if you done have a wah pedal)
5 - is a octave shifter - you can go up or down two octaves or one octave.
6 is a sitar simulator. It is not perfect, but is as good as you are likely to get with a guitar.
7 is the metal sound that is based on the digitech metal master. Again, it will only give you a metal sound as you cant change the gain level, but if you like that sort of thing it sounds absolutely huge - you can get a very good pantera type gain out of this.
What i love about it i you get seven useable sounds, all very different, in a small single effect sized stompbox. Three of them - the phase, sitar simulator and octaver were all effects that are useful to me and so i bought it.
But what i really didnt like is the fact that some of the effects (esp the distortions and sitar simulator) sound very bright/ harsh when you turn it up (play live). In the case of the sitar sim there is no eq on the pedal.
If you are thinking of buying it then ask yourself this: how many of the effects on it do you actually really want. If it is most of them, then it is very useful to have all those sounds in a small size pedal, especially as they are all high quality.
If it is only say two or three of them, then i think you are better off with indvidual effects pedals.
TwilightOdyssey
Darkness on the edge of Tone
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The Weapon is an interesting pedal, but it's really geared for only TWO people in the world: Donnegan in Disturbed who actually uses the presets in songs, and someone inspired by/copying his sounds, for covers or whatever.
That being said, The Weapon was very well reviewed by the guitar media, but most players don't like it, myself included. I found it to be pretty useless to my playing style, and of dubious quality.
To say that everyone must live with a piece of gear to determine whether they can form an opinion on it is just plain silly.
If you like it, great. But let's face facts: It's a crappy immitation of the sounds you would get if you owned an Eventide, Lexicon, etc.
Zak, this board is a pretty tough room when it comes to quality: NO COMPROMISE is accepted when it comes to tone.zak said:
The Weapon is an interesting pedal, but it's really geared for only TWO people in the world: Donnegan in Disturbed who actually uses the presets in songs, and someone inspired by/copying his sounds, for covers or whatever.
That being said, The Weapon was very well reviewed by the guitar media, but most players don't like it, myself included. I found it to be pretty useless to my playing style, and of dubious quality.
To say that everyone must live with a piece of gear to determine whether they can form an opinion on it is just plain silly.
If you like it, great. But let's face facts: It's a crappy immitation of the sounds you would get if you owned an Eventide, Lexicon, etc.
NecroPolo
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Although not a Digitech product was created that I like, I agree.
Never played the digi-weapon but for years I had been using a Korg G1 distortion processor that we won in a bands' competition. Although I liked it I was never 100% satisfied. Was it an improvement compared to my previous tone? Yes. Was it a bad unit? No. Did I have a crappy sound? No, it was decent just not 100%. Was it perfect for my $$$ and actual playing? Yes. Do my present tube heads sound better? Most definitely, YES. When I cranked first the amp I felt I miss something (extra dirt that covers your a$$
) but as I played it on and on alone I began to remove FX pedals from the chain and I began to feel that I had walked on a wrong way before. Only a wah, a stereo ambience splitter and a noise gate remained.
I think once you have the opportunity to play the real thing you will never turn back to modelling / digital stuff anymore. For most people, that road is long, for me it took a decade to be able to afford a rig that I like. Looking back from now I would have done better if I spared some and bought a battered but sure sounding tube head instead of multi-FX pedals. I would say for $200 you can buy a fine used amp in decent conditions. But that is just me. If multiple FX rock your boat, try it, you may find something you like.
Just my 2 cents.
zak said:
Although not a Digitech product was created that I like, I agree.
Never played the digi-weapon but for years I had been using a Korg G1 distortion processor that we won in a bands' competition. Although I liked it I was never 100% satisfied. Was it an improvement compared to my previous tone? Yes. Was it a bad unit? No. Did I have a crappy sound? No, it was decent just not 100%. Was it perfect for my $$$ and actual playing? Yes. Do my present tube heads sound better? Most definitely, YES. When I cranked first the amp I felt I miss something (extra dirt that covers your a$$
) but as I played it on and on alone I began to remove FX pedals from the chain and I began to feel that I had walked on a wrong way before. Only a wah, a stereo ambience splitter and a noise gate remained.I think once you have the opportunity to play the real thing you will never turn back to modelling / digital stuff anymore. For most people, that road is long, for me it took a decade to be able to afford a rig that I like. Looking back from now I would have done better if I spared some and bought a battered but sure sounding tube head instead of multi-FX pedals. I would say for $200 you can buy a fine used amp in decent conditions. But that is just me. If multiple FX rock your boat, try it, you may find something you like.
Just my 2 cents.
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Gary Ladd
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The only Digitech products I've ever liked I bought and are the GSP-21 and the TSR-24s.
Of course the GSP-21 turned out to be only usable after I tubed it by puting a Hafler T2 preamp through the effects loop, which by the way sounds awesome and blew away a GSP-2101 I compared it to side-by-side!
Then again, I retired my GSP-21 for a Pod XT Pro & only use it for practice into NI Guitar Rig.
AS far as my TSR-24s, it's still in my rig running thru the effects loop of my Quad-X preamp.
All of the Digitech stompbox stuff I've demoed over the years has been over-rated crap IMHO.
The only Digitech products I've ever liked I bought and are the GSP-21 and the TSR-24s.
Of course the GSP-21 turned out to be only usable after I tubed it by puting a Hafler T2 preamp through the effects loop, which by the way sounds awesome and blew away a GSP-2101 I compared it to side-by-side!
Then again, I retired my GSP-21 for a Pod XT Pro & only use it for practice into NI Guitar Rig.
AS far as my TSR-24s, it's still in my rig running thru the effects loop of my Quad-X preamp.
All of the Digitech stompbox stuff I've demoed over the years has been over-rated crap IMHO.
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I was still working for GC when this thing came in... after work we'd usually spend and hour or so with the new gear that came in if there was any. I'd had my mind made up in the first 15 minutes running this thing thru a clean fender twin (i usually use a clean fender twin for reference) and an assortment of guitars but I decided to really play with it to see if i could get anything out of it.
The distortions sound very thin and digital to me... playing thru a bigger amp like a dual rec halfstack on the clean channel gave it more cojones but still not quite enough. I found the miscellaneous effects on it to be rather weak.
You also stated that you cannot control the gain OR the mids on the pedal, then go on to say that the pedal is useful... I'm sorry but I gotta disagree on this one. How can a pedal that serves up distortion be useable and versatile when there's no gain control?
TwilightOdyssey was right... this board tends to have very high standards for products and on the whole Digitech usually doesn't cut it very well for pro-level quality stuff. The Whammy pedal is perhaps the one exception but lately I've been seeing problems with those as well. I had an old one AND one of the reissues but sold them both... i just recently got a new one again and had to return/exchange it TWICE because the treadle kept sticking. This never happened with the old ones. :evil:
Just give me a GT5 (with the preamps and OD/DS turned off), a wah, my whammy, and a modded Keeley distortion and thats all i really need.
zak said:
I was still working for GC when this thing came in... after work we'd usually spend and hour or so with the new gear that came in if there was any. I'd had my mind made up in the first 15 minutes running this thing thru a clean fender twin (i usually use a clean fender twin for reference) and an assortment of guitars but I decided to really play with it to see if i could get anything out of it.
The distortions sound very thin and digital to me... playing thru a bigger amp like a dual rec halfstack on the clean channel gave it more cojones but still not quite enough. I found the miscellaneous effects on it to be rather weak.
You also stated that you cannot control the gain OR the mids on the pedal, then go on to say that the pedal is useful... I'm sorry but I gotta disagree on this one. How can a pedal that serves up distortion be useable and versatile when there's no gain control?
TwilightOdyssey was right... this board tends to have very high standards for products and on the whole Digitech usually doesn't cut it very well for pro-level quality stuff. The Whammy pedal is perhaps the one exception but lately I've been seeing problems with those as well. I had an old one AND one of the reissues but sold them both... i just recently got a new one again and had to return/exchange it TWICE because the treadle kept sticking. This never happened with the old ones. :evil:
Just give me a GT5 (with the preamps and OD/DS turned off), a wah, my whammy, and a modded Keeley distortion and thats all i really need.
Closed Eye
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I own the Whammy and it's pretty great. It was so great, that I actually considered buying the Digitech X-Series Phaser.
I read some reviews in a bunch of guitar magazines before trying and was pretty much sold on buying an X-Series Phaser.
But when I went to the store and sat down with it for a few minutes I was not impressed. The only two I've been impressed by are the Delay and the red Distortion...oh yeah, and the DOD Grunge Re-Issue Digitech put out...it actually sounds much tighter than the original!
I actually settled on the Boss PH-3 Phaser, and that gets the job done fine...
HolyDirt said:
I own the Whammy and it's pretty great. It was so great, that I actually considered buying the Digitech X-Series Phaser.
I read some reviews in a bunch of guitar magazines before trying and was pretty much sold on buying an X-Series Phaser.
But when I went to the store and sat down with it for a few minutes I was not impressed. The only two I've been impressed by are the Delay and the red Distortion...oh yeah, and the DOD Grunge Re-Issue Digitech put out...it actually sounds much tighter than the original!
I actually settled on the Boss PH-3 Phaser, and that gets the job done fine...
Quencho092
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the hotrod is really the only real useable digitech distortion i could handle and i got it for that reason. It works nicely with my peavey classic or in conjunction with my TS9. I like it because it is voiced to sound like a pro co rat-boss ds-1-heavy fuzz pedal with the turn of the morph knob, i prefer the pro co rat tone as its middy and marshall-ish with my peavey.
It's always best to use either really good digital gear like a POD XT or a Vamp, or stick to the analog basics-guitar>(Ds-1 or Tubescreamer)>cranked tube amp. If you want gain get the stratdeluxer mods for your boss or ibanez.
the hotrod is really the only real useable digitech distortion i could handle and i got it for that reason. It works nicely with my peavey classic or in conjunction with my TS9. I like it because it is voiced to sound like a pro co rat-boss ds-1-heavy fuzz pedal with the turn of the morph knob, i prefer the pro co rat tone as its middy and marshall-ish with my peavey.
It's always best to use either really good digital gear like a POD XT or a Vamp, or stick to the analog basics-guitar>(Ds-1 or Tubescreamer)>cranked tube amp. If you want gain get the stratdeluxer mods for your boss or ibanez.
Gamera
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If you play it and like it buy it. If after playing it you're not sure but you still think it has potential because it's endorsed by so-and-so, dump it.
I don't know about The Weapon, but I used a Digitech RP-6 multi-effects board for many years and I was very happy with it. Whatever works for you.
If you play it and like it buy it. If after playing it you're not sure but you still think it has potential because it's endorsed by so-and-so, dump it.
I don't know about The Weapon, but I used a Digitech RP-6 multi-effects board for many years and I was very happy with it. Whatever works for you.
TwilightOdyssey
Darkness on the edge of Tone
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The key word of my post being the word crappy. I would advise used BOSS gear ahead of Digtech, myself.
Oh, absolutely, man. But who said we're being fair?screamingdaisy said:
The key word of my post being the word crappy. I would advise used BOSS gear ahead of Digtech, myself.
some_dude
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So would I.
Except the DigiDelay. In my opinion, it's better than some of the older Boss digital delays....
TwilightOdyssey said:Oh, absolutely, man. But who said we're being fair?
The key word of my post being the word crappy. I would advise used BOSS gear ahead of Digtech, myself.
So would I.
Except the DigiDelay. In my opinion, it's better than some of the older Boss digital delays....
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theodie
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If a digitech were a weapon, it would be a pea shooter or a rubber band gun at best. There are very few exceptions to that though.
If a digitech were a weapon, it would be a pea shooter or a rubber band gun at best. There are very few exceptions to that though.
