Dimarzio Fred

Darg1911

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I came across a Fred going through one of the parts bins. I cannot remember what I had this pickup in or what it was paired with. I think I was lukewarm on this pup and that I had it in the bridge of something and found it middy and a bit bright but I don't remember for sure. Anyone that knows this pup, please fill me in on the basic tone and whatever details you have in terms of what it may pair with. Whatever you got. Thanks.
 
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I had one in a BC Rich Mockingbird back in the early 90s, sounded great in that guitar.
 
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I think I was lukewarm on this pup and that I had it in the bridge of something and found it middy and a bit bright but I don't remember for sure.

I had one for a short time in the bridge position of a guitar with a basswood body, maple neck, rosewood board and a Floyd. It replaced a PAF Pro which I really liked but I thought the Fred would be an upgrade. I expected it to have more output, more midrange and a more singing tone. What I got was exactly what you described. I liked the PAF Pro better.
 
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I think I remember what I pulled it from now. I think it was in the bridge of a Les Paul-ish type guitar that now has a set of pups that Mick Manlius wound for me.

I don't know Dimarzio pickups very well. Are their winding specs misleading in terms of output? I'm thinking maybe better suited in the neck of something but I normally wouldn't consider a pup wound to near 11K in the neck.

blueman335 ... A2?
 
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I have one in the bridge of an old MIJ Jackson superstrat. It has a maple/rosewood neck, a weird fixed tele-style bridge and probably a basswood body, since the guitar is extremely light.

The FRED is the only pickup on the guitar and there is only a volume pot on the guitar.

I like the pickup. I don't find it to be excessively bright or boomy. It has a nice, balanced and full midrange that has a spike in it, much like a PAF Pro. It cuts through well and is well suited for leads. I wouldn't use it for modern thick, dark and heavy metal styles, but for lighter styles with lots of lead playing I find it works well.
 
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I think I remember what I pulled it from now. I think it was in the bridge of a Les Paul-ish type guitar that now has a set of pups that Mick Manlius wound for me.

I don't know Dimarzio pickups very well. Are their winding specs misleading in terms of output? I'm thinking maybe better suited in the neck of something but I normally wouldn't consider a pup wound to near 11K in the neck.

blueman335 ... A2?

The Fred design is what they call dual resonance. Meaning the two coils have different resonance peaks and if I recall correctly are wound with different gauges of wire. I had one many years ago and did not like it that well. I found it a little thin and weak actually and I play vintage output pickups for the most part.
 
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The Fred design is what they call dual resonance. Meaning the two coils have different resonance peaks and if I recall correctly are wound with different gauges of wire. I had one many years ago and did not like it that well. I found it a little thin and weak actually and I play vintage output pickups for the most part.

I used one of mine to make into a couple hybrids, I think the coils are mismatched, at least 1K difference between them if I remember correctly.
 
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I've been intrigued by the DiMarzio Fred because I love Satriani's tone...but didn't Satriani want a beefier/hotter one that became the DiMarzio Mo Joe?
 
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Lake Placid ... yeah, my memory of it just goes back to it being a bit thin.

Good info though. Guess it will end up coming down to trying it in something. Maybe a good pup to play with.

blueman335 ... I need to pick up a couple unoriented A5 mags. Got 2, 4, 5 and maybe A3 but no UOA5.

If I end up liking it well enough I'll find something to pair it with. Thanks.
 
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I don't know Dimarzio pickups very well. Are their winding specs misleading in terms of output? I'm thinking maybe better suited in the neck of something but I normally wouldn't consider a pup wound to near 11K in the neck.

DiMarzio specs the output of their pickups in mV (=milliVolts or a thousandth of a Volt). The DC resistance does not have a direct impact on output and is misleading as an indicator unless you are comparing two pickups that have the same magnet, wire gauge and construction.
 
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Lake Placid ... yeah, my memory of it just goes back to it being a bit thin.

Good info though. Guess it will end up coming down to trying it in something. Maybe a good pup to play with.

blueman335 ... I need to pick up a couple unoriented A5 mags. Got 2, 4, 5 and maybe A3 but no UOA5.


For me, the stock Fred is a little bright and thin, but I like warm bridge PU's. UOA5's are like A2's (lots of rich texture), but with a little more treble, and a little less mids. There are times when an A2's too fat and rounded.
 
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DiMarzio specs the output of their pickups in mV (=milliVolts or a thousandth of a Volt). The DC resistance does not have a direct impact on output and is misleading as an indicator unless you are comparing two pickups that have the same magnet, wire gauge and construction.

Understood but I don't see other manufacturers stating the output in mV so, it's not a very meaningful spec for me as a cross reference. That said, as meaningless as the Kohm winding spec may be, I still can safely say that, with other brand pickups that I've used, I know that I generally would not be inclined to install a bucker wound to 11K in the neck of one of my guitars. My question really was whether Dimarzio is using some tech./design that would change my thinking with their pickups.
 
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For me, the stock Fred is a little bright and thin, but I like warm bridge PU's. UOA5's are like A2's (lots of rich texture), but with a little more treble, and a little less mids. There are times when an A2's too fat and rounded.

I tend to prefer warmer bridge PUP's as well. I swapped the A5 for an A2 in JB in one of my guitars years ago. But again, never have tried an un-oriented A5 yet. The Fred might be a good first candidate.
 
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Stop looking at the resistance, it's not a PAF. It's an awesome neck pickup. Knowing that pickup like I do I kinda think it would sound like **** with a UOA5 in it, but whatevs.
 
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Stop looking at the resistance, it's not a PAF. It's an awesome neck pickup. Knowing that pickup like I do I kinda think it would sound like **** with a UOA5 in it, but whatevs.

Depends on what kind of music the person is playing. For me, it's too hot for a neck PU. if you're into metal, it may be a good choice. I think it works well in the bridge slot with a warmer magnet.
 
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