Dimarzio Pups..which one...?

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F. Hails Railsologist
Hails Guys
i decided to swap the emgs out of my charvel with the ASH body and try out dimarzios to FAT up the sound.
so, i´m thinking in getting a TONE ZONE/AIR NORTON SET.
But.. i´m affraid of getting a pickup with TOO much OUTPUT(correct me if i´m wrong), cause my 5150 and marshall 1960 4x12 already have lots of OUTPUT... so...
which one of the dimarzio HIGH output line.. has LES HIGH output, fatter Sound and TIGHTER BASS?! And still cut through in the Mix on the LEAD department(BRIDGE)

Which one of the medium output bucker from dimarzio has the Smoother, sweeter sound in the neck for leads with lots of distortion and will not Get muddy ?!!??!
****ing Hails
J.P

is my choice ok or shoul i look for another dimarzio pickups?
 
Re: Dimarzio Pups..which one...?

Which One do you recomend instead of the tone zone for the bridge ...
something that will NOT have a shrill, Overly bright sound.. etc. cause my ASH body charvel is ****ing Harsh with the previous pickup(JB bridge) and with the emgs.
 
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A Breed in bridge and a Air Norton in neck. Or perpaps a Air Zone in bridge?
 
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will the air zone be tight in the bass? i mean, i WANT tight bass. balanced(not scooped/not boosted) Middles and Balanced Highs(again, not scooped, not boosted)
and moderated output.
 
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i´m ON the dimarzio site, before posting this thread. eheheheheh
the proboem is with their line of SOUNDCLIPS.
pretty dull and processed.
lots of effects, and NO ****ING RHYTHM stuff. only leads.
Q:/
 
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I agree about the Tone Zone, it isn't "that" tight. I've managed to make it tight enough to play speed/thrash metal with no problems though. I think that I could make a quick clip for you if you like. Otherwise I think that the eq could suit you. It's really fat and would probably suit your guitar's woods well. Also, the way I've set up mine, it really isn't a high output pup compared to EMG 81. Compared to the 498T that I had on earlier on, if you have experience about them, it's leagues more thick and warm without the shrill highs.
 
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YEAH JOHTOSOTKU.
i have your clips
Q:)
so, i was checkign AGAIN the dimarzio site and it looks like i´ll not find what i´m looking for.
i´m affraid to overpower the 5150 with too much mids. and too much output.
cause it has lots of both.. so, i want a Balanced Pickup, but with a TIGHT bass. Smooth Highs(to contrast with the amps Rawness/crunchyness) and moderated(not scooped or reduced. and not BOOSTED too) Mids.
MEDIUM output.
Q:)
I´ll Not Get a Duncanthis time.
Q:) Maybe next time.
 
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Well, then I say Breed. Got one in a Strat with Kahler trem. Really tight bass, smooth highs. Quite loud, but not extreme. There is a neck Breed too, which is preferred in the bridge by some people. It has less output than the bridge version, but I have never tested it.
 
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Tight bass and smooth mids? Sounds like a ceramic pickup. Alnico pickups have a little bit grainier mids under distortion but not everyone hears that. You can always control the amount of highs with some caps and resistors.

The Air Norton is good for a smooth neck sound. It's rich in the bass and mids department but doesn't get muddy even with lots of distortion.

I'm not sure about the Air Zone. I used to have one in my ash Strat. It was quite balanced and warm without a tone pot but for your style you might not find it tight enough. I'm not sure, though.

I know it's a Dimarzio thread but why don't you wait for the BK Painkiller to come out? It has a really powerful ceramic magnet and thin wire, which means tight bass and smooth mids. Tim says the mids will be its biggest strength (heavy and in-your-face). Scatterwinding also makes the sound more balanced to some extent. Based on the description Tim has given me it might be the right pickup for you.

And don't be afraid of high output pickups. A lot of people prefer low output pickups and they let the amp do the rest. But if you want a really tight and smooth sound with precise bass, you need compression in the preamp section, which is what high-output pickups do.
 
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In my basswood Ibanez, I have found that for a high output pickup, the Evolution 2 is very nice.
The sound is decently fat (not sure if my definition of "fat" is the same as yours), with tight bass. It is not nearly as screechy as the Evolution. The high-end spike has been diminished a bit. It is much warmer than the original.
The original Evolution has VERY tight bass, but it is very edgy on high-end: not for the faint-of-heart.

As stated above, the Tonezone is not tight, and I found it to be far too boomy and muddy for my taste.

For a medium output pickup, I really like the PAF Pro in both bridge and neck position. It has a very nice warm-ish open sound, but still with a bit of tightness--it doesn't sound muddy.
In the bridge, I like to taper back the bass and punch up the treble a touch. The result is a pretty sweet lead tone, and the bass seems a bit tighter.
I do not use the neck much--only for certain parts of leads, but I don't get the impression that the PAF Pro is muddy there.
Regardless, the PAF Pro is a very expressive pickup.

My three favorite Dimarzio pickups to date are the PAF Pro (Fred is nice as well), Evolution 2 and sometimes the Evolution.
I just tried a Screamin' Demon, and it is a great pickup--will be getting some more Duncans soon. I think the Custom is on the horizon.

Good luck!

Bob
 
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Ash is certainly not a loose sounding wood. Any pickup would normally sound noticably tighter in an ash guitar than it would in a mohogony, basswood, or alder body. So a TZ may be just fine in a ash guitar. For that matter a Duncan CC may actually be tight enough in ash, while offsetting the toppiness of ash. Having said that, I think you would like the Breed, because it's lower mids boosted, without as much top end, but still using Alnico5 for the bottom end punch.


What finger board does this guitar have?
 
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Air Norton is awesome for the neck. I have yet to find a Dimarzio bridge bucker that I really like.
 
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The fretboard wood is rosewood
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In that case a Duncan CC or the TZ may not be tight enough. The Breed looks like a likely canidate, with perhaps the PAF Joe for the neck.

Have you seen Stratdeluxers thread on the Virtual Hot PAF? He say's it has pretty good output. It would probably be tighter in the low end than a high output model, but it's reportdly warm and sweet in the top end too. A VPAF set may be real fine in an ash guitar.
 
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Huuuuuuum thank´s man
Q:)
I´ll go for DImarzio with this guitar
so, the breed is a strong candidate in the neck RIGHT;?
if yes, can someone PLease compare The Breed Neck with air norton neck Please?
J.p
thank´s
 
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hails wfd!

i'd say that the dimarzio super 3 is a good choice for a bridge. its quite similar to the breed, but has quite a bit more output. i have it in a super shrill guitar like you, although mine is is maple body/neck. it warmed it up to the point i need to boost treble! also, its pretty tight, well, compared to my bro's tone zone in a mahogany rg it is. the tone zone has way too much bass to be used for your unholy brutal riffs.

rock on!
 
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