Disagreement with music store employee

[astrozombie]

I visited a local store that had a nice LTD H guitar, it was purple and had a nice pair of duncans: a custom 5 bridge and jazz neck. Mahogany body, maple top, maple neck, rosewood board. Purple finish.

I plugged it in and it sounded great, I then started to play this instrumental song I'm writting and then I hit one of the high notes in the song... and got nothing. the fret was totally dead.

The salesman then tried to convince me that every guitar has frets like that, that are dead, and he said the action was too low on the guitar too.

I told him that I loved it, but the guitar I own has no dead frets and I have the action set way lower. I also said my guitar is priced a little less than this specific LTD.



I can't believe he actually tried to sell me the guitar, insisting that every single guitar is flawed. Ever deal with someone like that?

 

[alteredbeast]

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nope. dude sounds like an idiot

 

[ec1000]

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Never had a sales person tell me that one befor even the three local shops where I am at an the two I visited when I went back home. I my self have two esp ltd's that are in good working order an no dead frets in them at all. Glad to hear you were trying it out befor you buy it for any reason like you should. Test drive the car befor you buy she my look like a porsche or ferrari, end up being a VW beetle. Sad to hear the sales person is looking after his wallet an the person.

 

[CTN]

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dude, most music store employees are ignorant. They are, after all, salespeople, not technicians.

 

[astrozombie]

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nope. dude sounds like an idiot

I hate to say it, but I have to agree.

Never had a sales person tell me that one befor even the three local shops where I am at an the two I visited when I went back home. I my self have two esp ltd's that are in good working order an no dead frets in them at all. Glad to hear you were trying it out befor you buy it for any reason like you should. Test drive the car befor you buy she my look like a porsche or ferrari, end up being a VW beetle. Sad to hear the sales person is looking after his wallet an the person.

I really like ESP/LTD neck profiles. If I remember correctly, the one I had was a "U" shape or something like that. Felt great!!

I was disappointed when I played way up there and got nothing. It was a really nice looking and feeling guitar.

dude, most music store employees are ignorant. They are, after all, salespeople, not technicians.

he had good knowledge of woods and pickups, he was a decent player... i think he was just trying to get me to buy it anyway.

 

[Vasshu the humanoid typhoon]

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Cheap stuff is cheap because they saved money somewhere.

 

[uOpt]

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Dead notes are a common problem with this style of guitar body. PRS guitars used to be affected a lot (although it's claimed they found a fix).

You might be able to fix it by weights on the headstock. Or the truss rod might be in a weird position and wiggling fixes it. But then - maybe not.

 

[BrianS.]

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Dead notes are a common problem with this style of guitar body. PRS guitars used to be affected a lot (although it's claimed they found a fix).

You might be able to fix it by weights on the headstock. Or the truss rod might be in a weird position and wiggling fixes it. But then - maybe not.

Huh?

 

[ratherdashing]

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Dead notes are a common problem with this style of guitar body. PRS guitars used to be affected a lot (although it's claimed they found a fix).

You might be able to fix it by weights on the headstock. Or the truss rod might be in a weird position and wiggling fixes it. But then - maybe not.

Maybe I'm suffering from lack of sleep or poor reading comprehension, but I think the OP is talking about a note fretting out (i.e. the string vibration is being impeded by a too-tall fret further down the board).

Fretting out has nothing to do with the guitar body. It's either a set-up problem, or the frets weren't properly levelled (typical with low-cost guitars).

 

[Gearjoneser]

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That's why it says LTD on the headstock. Limited quality and playability. LOL

If it said ESP, it would mean they had the Extra Sensory Perception needed to make a quality guitar. haha

 

[uOpt]

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Maybe I'm suffering from lack of sleep or poor reading comprehension, but I think the OP is talking about a note fretting out (i.e. the string vibration is being impeded by a too-tall fret further down the board).

Fretting out has nothing to do with the guitar body. It's either a set-up problem, or the frets weren't properly levelled (typical with low-cost guitars).

I don't think the OP specified whether it's fretting out or just dead.

I was talking about just-dead which or course is hard to fix.

 

[astrozombie]

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Cheap stuff is cheap because they saved money somewhere.

It was around $1000 :O

Dead notes are a common problem with this style of guitar body. PRS guitars used to be affected a lot (although it's claimed they found a fix).

You might be able to fix it by weights on the headstock. Or the truss rod might be in a weird position and wiggling fixes it. But then - maybe not.

It's incredible that you say that because the salesman said that it doesnt happen to me because my guitar is bolt on and a set neck is different.

Huh?

That's what I thought

Maybe I'm suffering from lack of sleep or poor reading comprehension, but I think the OP is talking about a note fretting out (i.e. the string vibration is being impeded by a too-tall fret further down the board).

Fretting out has nothing to do with the guitar body. It's either a set-up problem, or the frets weren't properly levelled (typical with low-cost guitars).

exactly...

That's why it says LTD on the headstock. Limited quality and playability. LOL

If it said ESP, it would mean they had the Extra Sensory Perception needed to make a quality guitar. haha

:lmao:

 

[uOpt]

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It still isn't clear which one it is. Bad fret or dead note.

Did you check whether that one fret was low (e.g. from a ding)?

 

[Vasshu the humanoid typhoon]

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$1000

For a LTD?
Doh....They are still cheap guitars...

 

[King IzzO)))]

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It's probably a bad fret, sheesh. I've seen plenty of brand new guitars in shops with them, and some US brands too. It happens.

Par for the course with dip**** there though.

 

[tubecrunch]

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I asked a trustworthy employee about a similar issue years ago. Why don't you set these guitars up? He said it will sell with or without the setup, maybe even before he would have a chance to set it up. He was right. It sold.

 

[XPAULPITT]

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sounds like a high fret to me. Nothing some sandpaper and steel wool cant fix.

 

[TheLivingDead]

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He's a... Um... Salesman.

 

[Little Pigbacon]

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I once had a salesman tell me I should keep putting lemon oil on a fretboard where the treble side of one fret kept lifting up. Really? Lemon oil. Really?

 

[astrozombie]

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It still isn't clear which one it is. Bad fret or dead note.

Did you check whether that one fret was low (e.g. from a ding)?

didnt look into it, the frets had some wear down there though.