Disagreement with music store employee

[constant mesh]

Re: Disagreement with music store employee

It's hard to judge, when OP just said it had a dead note, but he didn't point out any specifical details, like action, relief etc.

Altough the salesperson is obviously ignorant, he might be partially right. I know for sure a lot of stores near me have their "shredding guitar freak" employee set it so it would sell right away - in theory. This means lowering action to 1mm and maybe doing some sorts of crazy setup never attempted before. What you get is a lousy guitar. I know basic specs of just about any major manufacturer, but I have never seen a particular guitar in the store set up to full specs.

 

[guitarrob]

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I have tried many guitars in many shops and have yet to find any with a dead notes or dead frets as it may be.

You are right though as it would depend on who was setting them up.

 

[Archer_of_Fish]

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I had a guy in a GC tell me that Tom Anderson guitars are made in Fenders custom shop.

 

[esandes]

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Cheap stuff is cheap because they saved money somewhere.

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[verbotenco]

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His job is to sell stuff regardless it's crap or not crap. Why take issue with him? You shoulda just put it down and walk away.

 

[verbotenco]

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nope. dude sounds like an idiot

You mean the salesman or the customer? Both sound like dumbass to me.

 

[guitarrob]

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I had a guy in a GC tell me that Tom Anderson guitars are made in Fenders custom shop.

Some people will tell you all kinds of BS if they think you don't know any better.
This is why it is best to do your research and know what you are talking about before you go shopping for a new instrument.

 

[Archer_of_Fish]

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Some people will tell you all kinds of BS if they think you don't know any better.
This is why it is best to do your research and know what you are talking about before you go shopping for a new instrument.

I laughed in the guys face and told him not to lie to customers....I saw no reason to be polite to the guy. Fender's custom shop operation is a WAY, WAY bigger operation than Tom's shop.

 

[guitarrob]

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I love catching people in BS and lies, especially when it is a full BS, know they are 100% incorrect and still lying through their teeth.

 

[TattooedCarrot]

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Me: (Pointing to gold top way high on the wall) That an R7 ?

Sam Ash Guy: No its a 1957 Reissue.

Me: Yea, same thing. R is slang for the reissue year, R7, R8, R9 etc.

Sam Ash Guy: No, Gibson made a model called the R7 before, I can't remember. But historic reissues aren't called that, they're 57 reissue, 58 reissue, etc.

Me: Yea ok, have a good one (exits)

 

[Laughing Kookaburra]

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You mean the salesman or the customer? Both sound like dumbass to me.

So, if I'm reading you correctly, the OP is a dumbass for disliking substandard service?

 

[DankStar]

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You could play some cool dead metal on that thang

 

[DankStar]

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I had a guy in a GC tell me that Tom Anderson guitars are made in Fenders custom shop.

That's awesome! I stopped in his shop a few months ago, didn't see Leo there.

 

[Powdered Toast Man]

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The salesman was just desperately trying to move that guitar. It's ugly. Real ugly.

 

[tonello]

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I laughed in the guys face and told him not to lie to customers....I saw no reason to be polite to the guy. Fender's custom shop operation is a WAY, WAY bigger operation than Tom's shop.

That is true. He might have been thinking of Bolin guitars. According to Billy Gibbons, John Bolin is the officiated prototype builder for Gibson and Fender.

 

[Diego]

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Salesman aren't meant to tell the truth and make you choose the best guitar for you.

They're there to SELL.

I'd be a bad salesman for a guitar store. I'd tell everyone to steer away from Floyd Roses at the beginning, and get a decent starter guitar and play the crap out of it.

 

[guitarrob]

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Why, what's wrong with a Floyd Rose?

 

[Diego]

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I wouldn't recommend them to a novice, they're unstable and they made me lose a lot of hairs back in the day because the tuning was all over the place if I wasn't careful.

If you're experienced that's cool, but something dies inside of me everytime I see a kid who can barely play Smoke on the Water leave a store with a Ibanez RG, Jackson Dinky or something.

I can already see that guitar won't be in tune for at least 6 months. I'd suggest a hardtail and learn from there. But that's me and I could be wrong.

 

[guitarrob]

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Why wold the guitar be out of tune for the next 6 months? If the bridge is setup properly, strings tuned properly and the nut is locked, it will be in tune for a long time. That is the entire idea behind the system. Floyds are perfectly stable but they are also a high precision bridge.

The issue seems to arise when inexperienced people start messing with the bridge setup or any number of things that throw the tuning and stability out. Such as changing gauges..etc without setting the bridge up properly again for the new string tensions.
A quick lesson from the store tech for new owner and they should be fine until they need to bring it back for new strings. Once they learn proper setup procedures they can do it themselves.

I think you make too many assumptions about that bridge type and new players in general. I guess you may have had bad experiences with them either they were not setup properly or you might have messed with them. These bridges have always been great for me but to each their own.

 

[alteredbeast]

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ive only had problems with floyds once, 20 years ago when i first layed my hands on one. After that it was smooth sailing. just gotta know how to set em up.