Do any of the Digitech Hardwire distortions compare...

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I have the CM-2 overdrive which is not perfect for every situation but seems to be really good at making a thin tone sound thick. I also own the RV-7 Reverb which has a very nice sounding spring reverb setting. I had the the tube distortion for a little while, but I could really find a good practical use for it. The only thing negative I have to say about them is they take up a little too much space eon the pedal board.
 
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Haha no worries.....
But it will be fun when you engage more than one of those things!!!;)

Buffers have their place, but they have their problems too.

If you have many buffered pedals in the chain, each one with their own buffer, you are going to have a signal degradation. When all the pedals are switched off your guitar signal is going to go through each one of the buffer circuits, which means that is going to loose treble content in each of the stages.

This may not be seen as a problem but, if you have a high end guitar in a high end amp are likely to loose this "touch feeling", and all your playing nuances that used to go pushed out the speaker will be lost.

One can try that easily, jut plug a guitar directly to the amp and then start adding bypassed pedals. One or two are fine, 4-5 treble definition goes away and, all that subtlety from the guitar+amp is gone.

One thing to think about is that all this buffers are redundant because you only need one to change the impedance of the signal. What's the best of both worlds? To have most of your pedals true bypassed and one with a buffer. For example, one can have a Boss TU-2 at the begining of the chain buffering the signal and then the rest of the pedals in true bypass.

This is the ideal case, in my case I have 4 of 7 pedals with true bypass.

NOW, If you are playing in a band or with a lot of distortion you are most likely not feeling any difference. This is very noticeable when playing in the verge of distortion with low output pickups and high end gear.
 
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Blah blah......
;)

I have to say that your attitude is a bit annoying. You feel free to make your speech, but if it is someone else who does it you just find it boring.

I do not feel offended, just saying...

Anyway, It took my time to write what is above, I hope someone else find it useful.
 
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I just wondered if they sounded good. The bypass doesn't really concern me at this point. If the Hardwire overdrive/distortion pedals sound good enough, I hopefully wouldn't be bypassing them very often to begin with, haha.

Great Answer!
 
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Serious question Vasshy, would a method of setting up a board for best electrical performance (discounting audio, for the moment) feasibly eliminate the drop of which you speak? Let's say a couple of them do have the mega ohm resistor in place.

Something like this: buffered tuner--->TB Wah--->OD buffered--->TB Dist--->buffered Dist--->TB fx--->buffered fx---etc.
 
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One can try that easily, jut plug a guitar directly to the amp and then start adding bypassed pedals. One or two are fine, 4-5 treble definition goes away and, all that subtlety from the guitar+amp is gone.

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I really don't understand this logic. Exactly how would 4-5 TB pedals cause an issue when 1-2 would not? Your only talking about what, an extra inch of cable? Is that really going to matter when you have 30' of cable to the pedal board and another 20 to the amp? The problem in your scenario and any other with exclusive TB is the capacitance of the total cable length, not the TB switching. You are basically direct to amp with a 50' cable. I have 10' to my board and 6' to my amp in the studio. Are really claiming that adding 2 more TB pedal will destroy my tone?
 
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The 1 megaohm resistor in line with the switch/relay to reduce the noise, that's what the "problem" is, if I'm reading this correctly.
 
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Doh......it is the oldest joke here, that I do not think much of tb, and all that talk about bypass and all that mumbo jumbo!

Sorry for assuming that it was common knowledge, it is not serious, it is sarcasm....once again sorry about that!

Anyways now that I have to be serious....bugger me!
;)


A guitar signal only have so much Mv at its dispossal, so it is not the buffers fault that there so little signal in the first place!

At its very heart a guitar musiclevel signal is a puny thing, vunerable to statics, ground hums, and so on!

Back to the buffer, amps uses lowimpedant signals as well, at line levels, thus is has more resistance to degredation, as it is already a strong signal!
Same with 19" effect units, also line level and lowimpedance.

Pedals have a limitation in the weak signal from the guitar, as it is already degraded from the pickup, its origin!
You can only have so many pedals in a chain before the signal becomes close to useless.

And that is not the buffers fault, it only converts the signal from high to low, and they do not rob signal, the ensure that what ever is remaining can have some strenght left, but pedals are connected with cables, old plugs that are more than 100 years old techwise, nothing to there, the signal will degrade more and more each time it travels through two jacks and a cable!

There is nothing highend over serial highimpedant stuff, it is the worst kind of audio signal!
And a signal that is firmly rooted in the midrange only, cardbordish stuff in other words, harsh and unpleasent mostly!

Pedals colours sound, cables colour sound, you cannot escape that in any way!!!
Compromise is what anyone can achive!
Nothing else!

And why all this has become such a "important" issue is beyond me on a good day:)

As when you think about it, guitar is lo-fi, ugly, middy, not hi-fi, not strong signal equipment by nature.

So you do what you can with what you got, nothing is gained by pretending it is anything else!!

All the most cool tones out there is made on normal down to earth gear!
This modern idea that it is a hi-fi'sh highend thing is just wishfull thinking, in hope of getting something bought to you on a silverplatter!!

It is not even a matter of buffers or true bypass....but how you mix it up and get something interesting out of it!!
The tech is irrelevant, there are no rules!!!

I don't even like writing all this crap, I think I am wasting my time to be honest!!

As Zappa said!!!
Shut up and play!

Niels
 
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No straight-forward question goes unpunished around here.:)
 
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Yeah... I asked this question because I wanted to know how the pedals sound in comparison to other distortion pedals when I PLAY them... not when I don't play them.

:)


I have an OCD, a Boss OD-3 and the Hardwire CM-2.... The CM-2 is different than the two former, because it has a that TS mid range hump... Now that works great with my fender guitars and my amps clean channel to get a slightly crunchy classic rock sound. The OCD is better for running into my dirt channel to add sustain because it is more transparent. I would not use the CM-2 for that purpose... I had the tube distortion.. but it was too scooped for my taste and did not really cut through the band mix well...
 
Re: Do any of the Digitech Hardwire distortions compare...

Doh......it is the oldest joke here, that I do not think much of tb, and all that talk about bypass and all that mumbo jumbo!

Sorry for assuming that it was common knowledge, it is not serious, it is sarcasm....once again sorry about that!

Anyways now that I have to be serious....bugger me!
;)

Double Doh! Sorry, I've got you in the wrong way.
 
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i had their OD pedal, had a wide array of sounds for a decent sound..i sold it after i got my 3120 as i didn't really need a OD with that amp and i already had a treble booster and marshall jackhammer at that point...
 
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I own two of these pedals and just bought a third today off eBay. I have the RV-7 and the CR-7. Today I bought the DL-8 and am pretty excited to get it.

These are the first pedals I've bought in about 15 years. I've tried other effects and just never found a use but the tone suck always pissed me off. Also I tried the Line 6 floor POD which killed my signal and returned immediately. I don't that problem with the Hardwire series pedals.

I have them connected through my FX loop and notice no signal loss.
 
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I have to say that your attitude is a bit annoying. You feel free to make your speech, but if it is someone else who does it you just find it boring.

I do not feel offended, just saying...

Anyway, It took my time to write what is above, I hope someone else find it useful.

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