Do guitar manufactures use lesser quality wood for guitars finished in black?

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Treyhaislip, Dude, that seriously weirded me out.. And that isnt easy to do.. haha
 
Re: Do guitar manufactures use lesser quality wood for guitars finished in black?

Any guitar manufacturer, or quality woodworking operation of any kind, who is not separating their wood based on appearance is just being lazy. If you have that much wood coming in, you are buying in large lots, with most of the boards being sight unseen. You are obviously going to separate it with your own in-house grading process. That's just how any woodworking works, really, regardless of the scale of the operation. You mark most stuff as general purpose wood, and you pull out the best and the worst of it for specific purposes.

That said, it doesn't necessarily happen 100 percent of the time, or on an extremely strict basis. I have seen beautiful pieces of flame maple accidentally end up on Mexican Fender necks. And I believe there's a forum member here who discovered that his alpine white Les Paul Custom was a flame top underneath! On the other end of the spectrum, it's even more common to see relatively plain looking pieces of wood on high-end guitars – you're just not likely to see an exceptionally ugly piece of wood being used there. What most likely happens on a large scale is that, rather than super nice pieces being held for super nice guitars, pieces of wood that have particularly ugly grain, or other cosmetic problems such as dark streaks/spots or the like, are held for opaque finishes.

All that being said, it doesn't make a damned difference in terms of tone or structural integrity. (If anything, highly figured wood can be less stable than plain-grained wood.) Therefore, I would say worse looking pieces of wood, not simply lesser quality wood.

Wonderful contribution. Thank you.
 
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If a beautiful guitar inspires you to play more or be more creative... even in your own mind, I think that is a win. We all buy certain guitars with vastly individual selection criteria. If the end result is more music then I say buy all of the 5A quilted flamed spalted redwood alder basswood knotty pine plywood opaque sunburst vintage new guitars you want.

And yes, uglier wood gets painted black most of the time. It's just basic sheeple marketing 101. Often however, an ugly guitar will give you more than the sum of its parts and absolutely rock your world; much like an ugly woman. I say just close your eyes and play brother, play. Think about a beautiful guitar if it helps you.... or baseball stats. Whatever makes you perform better.
 
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Leon, talking about a guitar made of Butterwood huh? Like when you see an ugly girl with a great figure and call her butterface.. she's got a great body, but her face.... haha


I see knot holes, so I want it painted black... No translucent finishes, they all get painted black... Maybe Ill sand the finish away and then Ill have to face the fact... The wood had blemishes so thats why it was painted black....
 
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Id be suspicous that many multi piece bodies are hidden under solid colours.
Every so often you'll see a les paul with a 3 piece cap I'd bet theres a lot more finished solid black/white
 
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I have a "vintage black" ESP Eclipse that i've always been curious to see what's under that paint. I would never destroy the resale value by taking off the paint but i've always wondered the same question as the OP. What kind of wood are they setting aside for painted guitars, and how thick is the advertised maple top under there? Some good info in this thread.
 
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Id be suspicous that many multi piece bodies are hidden under solid colours.
Every so often you'll see a les paul with a 3 piece cap I'd bet theres a lot more finished solid black/white

'Every so often' meaning a good portion of the Goldtop 50's era, and from about 69 to 93 or so.

So many people seem to think that 1 more piece on the top or on the back is suddenly the deciding factor of good vs crap. A LP has 4 different wood species on it......the small matter of 1 extra piece of 1 of these species is nothing compared with the interplay of wood that grows half a world apart.
 
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