astrozombie
KatyPerryologist
my flying v's electronics arent grounded at all, i want to know because i have some wire around but its in a plastic coating (like wires usually are)
does a ground wire have to be bare?
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Diocletian
BrandNewGlossologist
Re: does a ground wire have to be bare?
No? Unless I'm missing something - wire's wire, as long as it conducts electricity it'll work even if it's coated in dog poop.
No? Unless I'm missing something - wire's wire, as long as it conducts electricity it'll work even if it's coated in dog poop.
Got_tone?
New member
Re: does a ground wire have to be bare?
Wouldn't you have shortage issues if the ground wire was bare (assuming something makes contact)? I'd prefer to use with one that is covered in plastic or cloth. You should be fine with the wire you got. What exactly are you trying to ground anyway?
Wouldn't you have shortage issues if the ground wire was bare (assuming something makes contact)? I'd prefer to use with one that is covered in plastic or cloth. You should be fine with the wire you got. What exactly are you trying to ground anyway?
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Funkfingers
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Re: does a ground wire have to be bare?
Ground wires are fine bare because they are (or, at least, ought to be) already grounded.
All of the other wires needed to be covered with insulation material in order to prevent them shorting to ground and interrupting your signal.
Ground wires are fine bare because they are (or, at least, ought to be) already grounded.
All of the other wires needed to be covered with insulation material in order to prevent them shorting to ground and interrupting your signal.
astrozombie
KatyPerryologist
Re: does a ground wire have to be bare?
does copper wire work on guitars?
does copper wire work on guitars?
Diocletian
BrandNewGlossologist
Re: does a ground wire have to be bare?
Again, I see no reason why not - it conducts right?
Again, I see no reason why not - it conducts right?
Diocletian
BrandNewGlossologist
Re: does a ground wire have to be bare?
You've never bought a vintage type pup have you?
You've never bought a vintage type pup have you?
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Funkfingers
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Re: does a ground wire have to be bare?
Yes but ...
1) Copper conducts heat more quickly than steel wire. This tends to melt plastic insulation before the solder joint is secure.
2) Copper is physically less strong than steel. There is a tendency for the strands in the wire to break - usually, right next to the blob of solder!
Yes but ...
1) Copper conducts heat more quickly than steel wire. This tends to melt plastic insulation before the solder joint is secure.
2) Copper is physically less strong than steel. There is a tendency for the strands in the wire to break - usually, right next to the blob of solder!
astrozombie
KatyPerryologist
Diocletian
BrandNewGlossologist
Re: does a ground wire have to be bare?
Good stuff, I'm pretty sure I've used it before too since I just use whatever happens to be to hand and I don't remember any problems with it.
Good stuff, I'm pretty sure I've used it before too since I just use whatever happens to be to hand and I don't remember any problems with it.
ginormous
Understatmentologist
Re: does a ground wire have to be bare?
1) A device acting as a heat sink (an alligator clip, for ex) can prevent the insulation from melting.
Many people hold the soldering pencil on the area for too long. Far too many more melt the solder first, rather than allowing the heat at the joining area to melt it. This is why a good solder joint is hard to find.
Practice, practice...
2) A single strand, thick gauge wire can suffice for grounding, since it has enough strength to hold fast and not move around. Keeping the length as short as possible works for me.
Quite true, however:
1) A device acting as a heat sink (an alligator clip, for ex) can prevent the insulation from melting.
Many people hold the soldering pencil on the area for too long. Far too many more melt the solder first, rather than allowing the heat at the joining area to melt it. This is why a good solder joint is hard to find.
Practice, practice...
2) A single strand, thick gauge wire can suffice for grounding, since it has enough strength to hold fast and not move around. Keeping the length as short as possible works for me.
astrozombie
KatyPerryologist
Re: does a ground wire have to be bare?
yes i actually have these guitars.
I managed to fix my telecaster with a grounding wire, however the flying v wasnt so lucky. no amount of grounding or other experimentation fixed the noise.
ive concluded that something in the wiring, the jack or the pickups, has gone wrong.
ive had bad luck in the past, so i decided to just put my flying v back together and call it a day. ill take it to a tech next week.
yes i actually have these guitars.
I managed to fix my telecaster with a grounding wire, however the flying v wasnt so lucky. no amount of grounding or other experimentation fixed the noise.
ive concluded that something in the wiring, the jack or the pickups, has gone wrong.
ive had bad luck in the past, so i decided to just put my flying v back together and call it a day. ill take it to a tech next week.
Got_tone?
New member
Re: does a ground wire have to be bare?
:chairfall I knew that if one of them wasn't covered it could cause a short out.
I've had a C5, Custom, 59b, and a 59n with braided wire.
Thanks for calling me out....... now I look like a :newbie:
You've never bought a vintage type pup have you?
:chairfall I knew that if one of them wasn't covered it could cause a short out.
I've had a C5, Custom, 59b, and a 59n with braided wire.
Thanks for calling me out....... now I look like a :newbie:
blueman335
Mojo's Minions
Re: does a ground wire have to be bare?
+1. The old push-back wire with the braided ground on the outside can short out your pots if touches them. I'll put a piece of bubble wrap in the control cavity to wrap the wire in.
+1. The old push-back wire with the braided ground on the outside can short out your pots if touches them. I'll put a piece of bubble wrap in the control cavity to wrap the wire in.
pzaxtl
Gibletsologist
Zerberus
Baron Von Shred
Re: does a ground wire have to be bare?
While true, with proper soldering technique it´s a non-issue or marginal at best.
While also true, the copper wire used in electric guitars generally isn´t a load bearing structural element
For purposes of a ground wire, more or less any wire you may have lying around, insulated or noit, should do fine.
While true, with proper soldering technique it´s a non-issue or marginal at best.
While also true, the copper wire used in electric guitars generally isn´t a load bearing structural element
For purposes of a ground wire, more or less any wire you may have lying around, insulated or noit, should do fine.
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Funkfingers
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Re: does a ground wire have to be bare?
Okay. You caught me. I was using cheap cable. :crying:
Okay. You caught me. I was using cheap cable. :crying:
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