Does You Use Fender Amps For High Gain?

[Ascension]

Re: Does You Use Fender Amps For High Gain?

Fender discontinued the Pro-sonic, the super-sonic is like the next version of it. Both very good amps capable of pushing out a lot of power and distortion...

The Super Sonic is like a nice safe "civilized" version of the Prosonic. To compare the Prosonic to the Super Sonic is like comparing Little Richards version of Tuti Fruti to Pat Boones.
The Prosonic has more gain at 3 than the Super Sonic has dimed!! The SS is a cool rig has better cleans and I'm looking closely at buying one. That said it is not even CLOSE to the Prosonic in high gain tones!

 

[shogunlegend]

Re: Does You Use Fender Amps For High Gain?

You have never played through a Fender Prosonic I take it
I actually had to run Mullard 12 AT7's in V1-3 on mine to KILL some of the flamethrowing uber gain :rocket::rocket:!! Who needs a box just buy a PROSONIC. Bruce Zinky created a MONSTER in those little mild mannered 2/10 blackfaced boxs :scared:. When folks walk up after hearing my Prosonic on stage and see only a little blackfaced Fender combo and hear that I am running no effects it's :eek2: .
This is the Prosonic and is all amp NO effects at a low bedroom volume level pre-gains ( 2 independent cascading gain stages ) on 5 or LOWER!! These stomp the heck out of all the Boogies and most of the Marshalls I have owned for high gain metal SCREAM!!
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/songInfo.cfm?bandID=261302&songID=5480498

dude, that sounds just like my supersonic with a pedal in front of it. what i'm starting to like about fender, unlike my mesa, is that solos stand out just enough and those high notes don't jump out wildly like my mesa does. i don't think they cut through as good as the marshalls, but almost and good enough.

this is a 60 watt tube amp with 8 friggin preamp tubes and 2 6l6s. i'm pretty sure, even with 1x12, that it's going to be a great all around amp and will do just fine for new metal. i'm going to record some lamb of god with this and my metal muff and the volume around 6 to see how it comes out. at 6 volume on this amp, that's loud enough for a moderate size club i think.

 

[WhammyBar Allstar]

Re: Does You Use Fender Amps For High Gain?

I guess whatever works for you. I just know it wouldn't work for me as I've tried it and wasn't as happy as just using the tried and true methods of getting high gain tight gut pounding punch. There is a difference, if there wasn't, I'd run a pod through the p.a. and be happy. There's a ton of different ways of getting to the same place here, I just don't care to entertain all the long ways around it.

But the topic here was running a high gain pedal into a Fender combo for metal tones. I also have a Prosonic that I run into a Bogner Ubercab. Sounds good... not like my 2203, VH4, Splawn, Pitbull, Mako, OD100, SlO, Powerball, Dual Rec., But it rocks.

 

[Ascension]

Re: Does You Use Fender Amps For High Gain?

I own both a 60 Watt Prosonic combo and a TSL 60 Marshall head . The Fender will blow the Marshalls DOORS off at higher volumes!!!
For sheer presence in the mix it's not even close! The Marshall will get bured in a loud band and the Fender when cranked will bury the BAND!!
Here is an outdoor clip with my Prosonic running at around 3.5
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/songInfo.cfm?bandID=439224&songID=5312459
When I need control and solid lower volume tones i run the Marshall but when I need POWER it's the FENDER!!

 

[Empty Pockets]

Re: Does You Use Fender Amps For High Gain?

hey i have an idea...let's argue about what sounds good instead of actually SOUNDING GOOD!

p.s. your tone doesn't matter if your songs suck...play what works for you and scroo the naysayers.

 

[JohnnyGuitar]

Re: Does You Use Fender Amps For High Gain?

hey i have an idea...let's argue about what sounds good instead of actually SOUNDING GOOD!

p.s. your tone doesn't matter if your songs suck...play what works for you and scroo the naysayers.

I agree with so many posts by Empty Pockets, it's scary... I just don't agree about punk music ...

I actually like it when players use the "wrong" equipment for their musical style - metal on hollow bodies or telecasters (with a real tele pickup - not a humbucker), jazz on super-strats, using weird effects to play folk rock... why be like the rest? if something works for you bring it to your musical style - it worked for EVH, Morello, Buddy Guy...

Fender amps can be used for anything.

 

[Vasshu the humanoid typhoon]

Re: Does You Use Fender Amps For High Gain?

Fænder...oooh I løøøvvvveee muy fænder...
Not really...

 

[krall]

Re: Does You Use Fender Amps For High Gain?

I'd say a whopping zero, because, in all honesty, if a Fender amp with a dirtbox sounded better for metal than a Rectifier, 5150, Marshall, etc... people would be using it.


I know you guys say your amps can get heavy, but I don't buy it. Not as heavy as I'm thinking, at least.

Click on the myspace link in my sig, and tell me if that's not heavy..We're Black Metal and I used Fenders. (Bassman's)

 

[tc]

Re: Does You Use Fender Amps For High Gain?

When I was shopping at a store, back when I still used the DS-2 a lot, I went into a store and plugged into a Twin Reverb (I think, it was way too long ago) with my guitar (stock at that time, Tom Delonge Strat, with a Invader in the bridge) and my DS-2. The cleans of course were very nice, which is kinda like the hallmark of Fender amps, but then I took some time, fiddled with the DS-2's knobs, and pressed the pedal. OYG was that thing mean....the distortion was just rude and anything but refined. Punch a chord and it came out soo raspy...but then again that's just my thoughts on the sucker.

 

[Empty Pockets]

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The fact is that certain groups of musicians have premeditated notions about all different companies. Y'know like how Fender Punk hates Gibson just because they're Gibson...I get the same vibe from a lot of metalheads i know.

When I was 15 I auditioned for a metal band...I brought my BC Rich Warlock and my brand new USA Strat. I was kicked out of the band because I thought the Strat sounded better for this one riff than the Warlock did....the other guitarist told some friends of mine that he thought i was an idiot for preferring Fenders to Warlocks. Whatever man. Good tone is good tone, I sold that BC for rent money.

 

[More-Gear-Than-Skill]

Re: Does You Use Fender Amps For High Gain?

I guess if you're using your amp as a poweramp/PA for your array of dirtboxes...then it's safe to say it's gonna do the job. Put a RAT & a Metalzone infront of a dimed Twin and watch your bowels fall to the floor...

 

[Virtual Kevorkian]

Re: Does You Use Fender Amps For High Gain?

Click on the myspace link in my sig, and tell me if that's not heavy..We're Black Metal and I used Fenders. (Bassman's)

I'll be ****ed - That's a Bassman doing metal. Definitely not my kind of tone, but it's heavy.

What kind of pedal are you running into it?

 

[Fender_Punk]

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Y'know like how Fender Punk hates Gibson just because they're Gibson

For the record, I've tried numerous Gibsons numerous times and have never been impressed. Guitily, I do like the sound of Les Paul Juniors in certain conditions, and would possibly own a Yellow Tokai one. I've also played an Elitist Sheraton my friend owned that I actually quite like (it had mini hums). So yes, I hate Gibsons, but only because they've repeatedly failed me and I don't like the looks or features. I'm not saying my hate is permanent, just till my tastes change or until the looks/features/price change.

...just thought I should set the record straight...

 

[Empty Pockets]

Re: Does You Use Fender Amps For High Gain?

record: straightened.

don't know how it's gonna work on a turntable tho.

 

[krall]

Re: Does You Use Fender Amps For High Gain?

I'll be ****ed - That's a Bassman doing metal. Definitely not my kind of tone, but it's heavy.

What kind of pedal are you running into it?

I used a custom made Solid Gold Sound Labs "High Octane" pedal..It's a TS-9 based pedal but Greg, the owner put an extra gain stage and other features to it for me..I highly recommend this company (from Montreal, Canada)..Here's a link to his site: http://www.solidgoldfx.com/

I used a '79 Ibanez Iceman (w/DiMarzio PAF PU'S) and a Tokai "Love Rock" (Les Paul copy) with Duncan jazz and Distortion PU's for the recording...Also used a modded GE-7 EQ (also modded by Greg)..

 

[millsart]

Re: Does You Use Fender Amps For High Gain?

I used to totally dislike Gibson's (and Fenders) when I was younger. They were "the man" so to speak so I naturally didn't want anything popular or that I'd see any mainstream artist play. When I'd see the guitarist onstage for adult contemporary pop acts playing a Les Paul I sure rejected the guitar because I rejected the music.

I was all about BC Rich, Deans, Jackson and ESP's. Cool guitars played by guitarist in bands that I was into at the time.

I remember seeing Max Cavalara's (lived down the street from him in Phoenix where I grew up) Warlocks and thinking it was the coolest guitar ever.

Or Dave Mustaines King V's for that matter. God looking back how am I ever glad I didnt work all summer bagging groceries to afford a Jackson King V for $999 at Musicians Friend. whew lol

I think its an ugly guitar now, totally uplayable sitting down and Dave Mustaine.....um no thanks lol


Theres all kinds of crazy "evil" looking guitars out now with every type of horn and spike you could imagine but none of them do anything for me 10 years later.


Finally got my hands on a few real LP's and wow, they actually do play really nice.


Just goes to show that things definatly change with time.

next guitar I'm planning on buying is Fender 62' american series strat in brown sunburst if that tells you anything

 

[YEM]

Re: Does You Use Fender Amps For High Gain?

Yeah. I compress the hell out of my signal & use a high-output bridge pickup. I guess it's not HIGH gain, but it's thick, chunky, rock n roll guitar, with the Fender strat/amp touch. The tone is really thick & meaty, but not overly muddy & saturated as a Les Paul/Marshall can sound to my ears. Has the PUNCH & articulation that I love out of my Fender amps. They sure can sound great with some gain.