DR Blues 9-42 ruined my tele sound, need help for replacements..

Re: DR Blues 9-42 ruined my tele sound, need help for replacements..

Being that your strings were 10 years old... I would say that you just got very used to the dead sound of the strings, so when you actualy put new/good strings on the guitar, it made it sound much brighter than the sound that you have been used to...
 
Re: DR Blues 9-42 ruined my tele sound, need help for replacements..

you play a squier "on again off again" with 10 year old strings thru a home theatre system and you complain about new strings. Something is askew in your methodlogy methinks.
Put your clips up for us and we can give you some feedback. There are plenty of players on this forum who "know the difference" and might be alble to give you some constructive advice. Be prepared tho....you might not what they tell you about your setup. Especially as you seem to have already made up your mind that a hi-fi/flat non-guitar amp system is superior.
 
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Re: DR Blues 9-42 ruined my tele sound, need help for replacements..

What happened is that your ears got used to a lot of unconventional variables.
Once you introduced something conventional, such as fresh strings, it changed your sound.

If dead strings was part of your sound, you've been doing things wrong for way too long. It's probably time to revamp your setup. :scratchch

Mozactly. New strings can throw you for a real loop if you are used to playing on dead ones. I mainly play on dead strings, and I hate the first month on any new set.
 
Re: DR Blues 9-42 ruined my tele sound, need help for replacements..

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Re: DR Blues 9-42 ruined my tele sound, need help for replacements..

To OP......guitars and amps are pretty low-fi, but the weaknesses of each gives us the guitar tone we know and love. The 'pure' reproduction of audiophile equipment is not going to give the best tone from a guitar, especially with new strings. You will most probably now be getting the most accurate representation of what your guitar is really like (new strings + flat audio reproduction). Given that you chose some of the most 'dull' strings about thank your lucky stars you didn't get Elixir coated, which are extra zingy.

Try soaking you new strings in oil or dirt for a bit. That should dull the tone a bit.
 
Re: DR Blues 9-42 ruined my tele sound, need help for replacements..

OK!

I just uploaded a video comparing the strings. If you don't have headphones or you have small speakers you may not be able to hear the difference. It's the 'harmonics' and 'overtones' as the other person mentioned that is lacking with the new strings. I really wish I had the old strings with some drive and reverb.. then you'd definitely here a HUGE difference.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYhsINCx1F4&hd=1

I also threw in the new ES-339 in there too. I recorded it twice and double checked to make sure it was really that bad.

Out of 10 years of playing and messing with audio and guitars and such I think I'm headed towards the 'Tele is the best guitar period' sort of person. Yeah one of those guys. I have a dual humbucker LP Ibenez and I never play it. It's only good for metal distortion.

This ES-339 clone is a project I'd like to work on to see how much twang I can get out of it. I'm relying 100% on advice from you guys on the pickups and such.

Also, people might think this statement is 'blasphemy', but wow I'm just not a fan of Gibson LP's. They look nice and sound ok with P90's, but other than that, they don't excel anywhere. They don't give twang, don't give ultra metal, aren't good for down tuning, aren't fast action like Jacksons.. they almost do nothing really well. That's just my opinion though. The Tele does a couple of things really well.

I recently researched for the 'best guitar' all around, and there are some that say the absolute all around best guitar is their modified Jazzmasters. Once you get into those, supposedly there's no going back. It's like they only buy Jazzmasters and begin selling their guitars only to collect them. I know nothing about them but for me, the Tele is king right now. Much easier to play than a a Gibson style fret board in my opinion. I just don't see where they 'shine' per say..
 
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I can say that even with the things you mentioned coloring my sound I can totally hear the difference in various brands of strings. Typically the full range of a guitar is best represented in a certain band of frequencies. Meaning you do nothing for tone and/or harmonics by going through a home theater set up. Different instruments are meant to be dominant in different frequencies. Otherwise there is no distinction. If you are going into your home theater system from your DAW, then I am guessing you must use some sort of amp emulation software. This is still coloring your sound. Clean pedal? Still coloring the sound in some way. Tone is all about coloration as I see it. Certian frequencies are cut, some are boosted, some are best left alone. How that balance is achieved is different for different people, different guitars, situation ect. Some coloration is pleasant, some not so pleasant. The only way to have uncolored tone would be a totally sound absorbtive room and be going through no electronics what so ever. Because if your guitar is plugged in your pick ups will also color the sound in someway or another. I say this because in my opinion your going about this in the wrong way. That said, if your happy going about it that way, and you like the results, thats fine. I also think it's worth saying that yes, studio monitors might be great to actually hear what the guitar and it's electronics sound like without the influence of an amp, speakers or what ever but, would that really be the tone you would want to play with? Most people would find that sound rather thin and unexciting.

As was previously suggested, try a set of what was originaly on the guitar. And give them some play in time.
 
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Re: DR Blues 9-42 ruined my tele sound, need help for replacements..

After listening to the to clips I can hear the difference in the two quite clearly. Pure nickel is definantly warmer, which is typical. if you like bright twang, a set of dean markley blue steels might be the ticket. Preference in guitars is a subjective thing. There is no wrong or right answer.
 
Re: DR Blues 9-42 ruined my tele sound, need help for replacements..

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Re: DR Blues 9-42 ruined my tele sound, need help for replacements..

I'm not at all trying to be rude but as soon as I got to "home theater" I tuned out...

I hope your new strings help but I'm betting a large amount of money you'll be in the same boat with slinkys...

What's truly amazing to me is that it took 10 posts for someone to finally say this.

I played a Strat through a home stereo once.

Once.
 
Re: DR Blues 9-42 ruined my tele sound, need help for replacements..

^ The OP is not a troll, is simply a guitar ignorant. Do not insult him...
 
Re: DR Blues 9-42 ruined my tele sound, need help for replacements..

^ The OP is not a troll, is simply a guitar ignorant. Do not insult him...

I disagree, look at his replies and the attitude/arrogance behind them. He doesn't appear to be searching out solutions or input, he is standing on a soapbox and is daring anyone to knock him off. His approach is one of a person seeking an altercation not an exchange of information. It is always best to just walk away from this sort of poster.

But if you want to give him a big hug be my guest.
 
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Re: DR Blues 9-42 ruined my tele sound, need help for replacements..

-I have a Squire Tele about 10 years old made in China.
-The guitar came with 9-42 Fenders strings (re-branded D'Addario's).
-I never changed the strings as I'm an 'on again off again' player.

Sorry, I can't get past this part in the first post.

You have probably gotten used to hearing dead rusted strings on your Tele.... and now you are trying to recapture THAT sound... ????
 
Re: DR Blues 9-42 ruined my tele sound, need help for replacements..

Hi!

-I have a Squire Tele about 10 years old made in China.
-The guitar came with 9-42 Fenders strings (re-branded D'Addario's).
-I never changed the strings as I'm an 'on again off again' player.

Sorry, I can't get past this part in the first post.

You have probably gotten used to hearing dead rusted strings on your Tele.... and now you are trying to recapture THAT sound... ????
 
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People can't hear the difference of their strings because they don't have transparent audio.

Why do you think people listen to music and TV on normal speakers instead of guitar cabs?

Cabs colour sound and take away tons of range. So do many amp headers. Of course you won't be able to hear tones when you change strings when you have that kind of setup.

I can hear tone through my setup. The difference is night and day. One is complex, the other is dry and thin.

Oh yes the bass has also been destroyed with the DR Blue strings. I have the powered sub-woofer so I can actually hear these things. Guitar cabs cut out all the high and lows in trade of SPL.

I'd recommend getting a pair of studio monitors and plugging in your amps and pedals into those. Then you'd get some accurate sound of what your guitar and gear are actually doing.

utter ignorance **facepalm**

you aren't even worth the time it would take to correct

I have played semi-professionally (meaning I earn income for playing) for over 20 years. I can hear HUGE differences between string gauges, string materials, string constructions, brands, etc through my "primitive" guitar rig.

If you even took a second to grasp that concept you'd realize that you actually argue against yourself since your pedal/amp modeler is actually designed to recreate the sounds of these "crappy"/"inferior" guitar amps.

Guitar amps sound better at reproducing guitars because that's what they are designed to do. Your argument is stupid a home theater system (which you still haven't even identified for us) isn't designed to bring out the best of a guitar it's designed to do one of two things HYPE the sound or give you a TRANSPARENT tone. Either approach is usually based around a frequency response range similar to that of the human ear. Does your guitar actually encompass 20Hz-20kHz? Of course NOT!

Most guitar tones that people enjoy listening to are the result of clipping not the result of pure, transparent, unaltered audio. And if you even did basic research on guitar amps you'd realize that different cabs, speakers, circuits, tube types, etc all play a huge role in your tone.

The other thing you are forgetting is that most guitarists want to sound good in a mix with other musicians so your full range transparent approach would likely sound horrible with a bassist, keyboardist, horns, a drummer, etc.

If you sound like **** the last thing you should be blaming is your strings, just saying :)

If you play on and off it's probably your playing (tone is 90% your fingers and about 10% the gear you use), of that 10% strings maybe constitute 1% of it. Maybe next time I make a mistake on a session or at a gig I'll blame my guitar strap for it instead of myself.

If you want twang and presence you should've picked DR Hi Beams since that's the tone those strings are designed to give. You picked the warmest sounding strings DR makes, and arguably one of the warmest roundwound strings in current production. I have used DR strings for the last 10 years by choice they are some of the best strings money can buy, they happen to be my favorite sounding string.

From the way you describe your guitar maybe you should actually do a full setup on it anyway. Level, dress, crown, and polish your frets. Set the intonation, maybe cut a new nut for it (polished bone). If needed tweak the truss rod.
 
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Re: DR Blues 9-42 ruined my tele sound, need help for replacements..

What's truly amazing to me is that it took 10 posts for someone to finally say this.

I played a Strat through a home stereo once.

Once.

I played electric direct to the board once.

Once.

I do it now, but there is a modeler between the two.
 
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