singlecoilhater
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does anyone know links to websites taht give tutorials for mods on Boss Ds-1 pedals?
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DS-1 mods
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STRATDELUXER97
Stratoblaster Tone Meister
Re: DS-1 mods
Robert Keeley used to show his SEM and the Ultra mods on his site...Check out his site..
John
Robert Keeley used to show his SEM and the Ultra mods on his site...Check out his site..
John
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Lewguitar
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Re: DS-1 mods
John's to humble! I've been threatening to send him a box of pedals to work wonders on for a while now, because according to the guys here, John STRATDELUXR97 does great pedal mods his own bad self. :dance: :cool3:
Lew
STRATDELUXER97 said:
John's to humble! I've been threatening to send him a box of pedals to work wonders on for a while now, because according to the guys here, John STRATDELUXR97 does great pedal mods his own bad self. :dance: :cool3:
Lew
some_dude
Raging BB Gunologist
Re: DS-1 mods
http://www.geofex.com/
http://www.diystompboxes.com/
Is a good start. I can't remember if they have tutorials or not, but the second link has enough links to other sites in it's link section that you should be able to find something.
http://www.geofex.com/
http://www.diystompboxes.com/
Is a good start. I can't remember if they have tutorials or not, but the second link has enough links to other sites in it's link section that you should be able to find something.
STRATDELUXER97
Stratoblaster Tone Meister
Re: DS-1 mods
Thanks lew and Norman....I'ts not that I'm humble,but it's just that not everyone knows me..I Like modding pedals but if I don't mod any pedals I'm fine with that also..I'm not at all pushy either!
John
Norman_T said:
Thanks lew and Norman....I'ts not that I'm humble,but it's just that not everyone knows me..I Like modding pedals but if I don't mod any pedals I'm fine with that also..I'm not at all pushy either! John
STRATDELUXER97
Stratoblaster Tone Meister
Re: DS-1 mods
Here's Keeley's SEM and how he does it...Not my favorite but it does give you some ideas...
http://www.robertkeeley.com/product.php?id=18
Here's Keeley's SEM and how he does it...Not my favorite but it does give you some ideas...
http://www.robertkeeley.com/product.php?id=18
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Lewguitar
Guest
Re: DS-1 mods
I haven't heard many modded DS-1's, but I AB'd my unmodded MIJ DS-1 against a brand new MIT DS-1 with the SEM mod and sold the MIT DS-1 with the SEM mod within one week.
I tried to like it but it just didn't do it for me. I can squeeze off harmonics and get those Jeff Beck kind of growls on the low E string alot better with my stock MIJ DS-1 and the clean tone, when I roll the volume on the guitar down to 1/2 way or less, was alot better on the unmodded pedal.
One thing: those old fashioned 60's style carbon batteries really do sound smoother and better than modern, longer lasting, alkaline 9 volt batteries or battery eliminators in overdrive pedals.
Lew
STRATDELUXER97 said:
I haven't heard many modded DS-1's, but I AB'd my unmodded MIJ DS-1 against a brand new MIT DS-1 with the SEM mod and sold the MIT DS-1 with the SEM mod within one week.
I tried to like it but it just didn't do it for me. I can squeeze off harmonics and get those Jeff Beck kind of growls on the low E string alot better with my stock MIJ DS-1 and the clean tone, when I roll the volume on the guitar down to 1/2 way or less, was alot better on the unmodded pedal.
One thing: those old fashioned 60's style carbon batteries really do sound smoother and better than modern, longer lasting, alkaline 9 volt batteries or battery eliminators in overdrive pedals.
Lew
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STRATDELUXER97
Stratoblaster Tone Meister
Re: DS-1 mods
I've been using an inline JRC chip in my Taiwanese DS1 mods lew and other than the chip,I wonder what's actually different? I have the actual Boss factory schematic for the DS1 and the SD1 and the component values are otherwise the same? Maybe it's component tolerences and aging? I don't get any MIJ DS1s and maybe it's because they sound alot better..Funny isn't it.. :13:
Lewguitar said:
I've been using an inline JRC chip in my Taiwanese DS1 mods lew and other than the chip,I wonder what's actually different? I have the actual Boss factory schematic for the DS1 and the SD1 and the component values are otherwise the same? Maybe it's component tolerences and aging? I don't get any MIJ DS1s and maybe it's because they sound alot better..Funny isn't it.. :13:
STRATDELUXER97
Stratoblaster Tone Meister
Re: DS-1 mods
These schematics show both the earlier MIJ models and the newer MIT models and the only real difference I see is the dc jack being different and some very minute component locations different between the 2 boards..I wouldn't think Boss would want to stray away too drastically between the old and the new though as far as how the pedal sounds and reacts when used,but these topics are interesting always..
John
STRATDELUXER97 said:
These schematics show both the earlier MIJ models and the newer MIT models and the only real difference I see is the dc jack being different and some very minute component locations different between the 2 boards..I wouldn't think Boss would want to stray away too drastically between the old and the new though as far as how the pedal sounds and reacts when used,but these topics are interesting always..
John
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Lewguitar
Guest
Re: DS-1 mods
Couldn't tell you John...I've never gotten into microchips and the like. Working on that stuff is not something I have a talent for! I do know that Steve Vai has mentioned that the MIT and MIJ version of the DS-1 sound about the same to him but that he does prefer the MIJ version. I've AB'd the MIJ and MIT version (both unmodded)...I heard very little difference between the two, but did feel that the MIJ DS-1 had a slightly more natural tone...maybe with something nicer about the mids.
Couldn't tell you John...I've never gotten into microchips and the like. Working on that stuff is not something I have a talent for! I do know that Steve Vai has mentioned that the MIT and MIJ version of the DS-1 sound about the same to him but that he does prefer the MIJ version. I've AB'd the MIJ and MIT version (both unmodded)...I heard very little difference between the two, but did feel that the MIJ DS-1 had a slightly more natural tone...maybe with something nicer about the mids.
STRATDELUXER97
Stratoblaster Tone Meister
Re: DS-1 mods
Lew...I'd still have to say it's more in the pot tolerences first and too a much lesser degree,the components...I also think the earlier version actually uses the 8 pin (4 pins on either side chip)The later version DS1 uses an inline chip where all pins are in a row...Maybe the two chips are different in tone and as I mentioned,I'm using an inline JRC chip in all of my DS1 mods...I'd have to bet that both of the unmodded versions would be very close in that A/B test though..
John
Lewguitar said:
Lew...I'd still have to say it's more in the pot tolerences first and too a much lesser degree,the components...I also think the earlier version actually uses the 8 pin (4 pins on either side chip)The later version DS1 uses an inline chip where all pins are in a row...Maybe the two chips are different in tone and as I mentioned,I'm using an inline JRC chip in all of my DS1 mods...I'd have to bet that both of the unmodded versions would be very close in that A/B test though..
John
presa_tito
New member
Re: DS-1 mods
I have a metal zone arriving sometime soon and I was wonering if the Keeley mod or any other is really worth it. Will it be much better? Maybe someone here could even do it.
I have a metal zone arriving sometime soon and I was wonering if the Keeley mod or any other is really worth it. Will it be much better? Maybe someone here could even do it.
STRATDELUXER97
Stratoblaster Tone Meister
Re: DS-1 mods
George...You are burning alot of energy for nothing buddy.... :smack: :wink:
John
Stratcat said:
George...You are burning alot of energy for nothing buddy.... :smack: :wink:
John
STRATDELUXER97
Stratoblaster Tone Meister
Re: DS-1 mods
Well ok then....LOL....The Taiwan made DS-1s sound like crap,but Lew states his early Japan made one doesn't...Lew's earlier model uses standard 8 pin opamps like a Tube Screamer and the Taiwan made ones use an inline opamp..The recent DS-1s sound kind of bright and buzzy to me...Harsh is a good word also..This is the exact reason that I Learned how to mod this pedal...It was either mod it or sell it...
John
Stratcat said:All I am trying to find out is, does anyone else think the stock DS-1 sounds like crap. No big deal buddy.
Well ok then....LOL....The Taiwan made DS-1s sound like crap,but Lew states his early Japan made one doesn't...Lew's earlier model uses standard 8 pin opamps like a Tube Screamer and the Taiwan made ones use an inline opamp..The recent DS-1s sound kind of bright and buzzy to me...Harsh is a good word also..This is the exact reason that I Learned how to mod this pedal...It was either mod it or sell it...
John
Re: DS-1 mods
That's what I thought John. It is to bad that the sound quality of Boss pedals has gone downhill over the years. I was also trying to find out if you modded the Japan or Taiwan pedals, or both? I know you do great work. I just do not want to be stuck with a pedal that might not give me the Tone I am looking for. Brother George. :wink:
STRATDELUXER97 said:
That's what I thought John. It is to bad that the sound quality of Boss pedals has gone downhill over the years. I was also trying to find out if you modded the Japan or Taiwan pedals, or both? I know you do great work. I just do not want to be stuck with a pedal that might not give me the Tone I am looking for. Brother George. :wink:
STRATDELUXER97
Stratoblaster Tone Meister
Re: DS-1 mods
I Mod em both..Can't help you there buddy...Sometimes you gotta just go with things brother...I may not want to mod a DS-1 for you....You're scaring me now! :32: :wink: I say if the DS-1 makes you uneasy....Move on and get something else...You won't break my heart buddy...It's all good.. :dance:
John
Stratcat said:
I Mod em both..Can't help you there buddy...Sometimes you gotta just go with things brother...I may not want to mod a DS-1 for you....You're scaring me now! :32: :wink: I say if the DS-1 makes you uneasy....Move on and get something else...You won't break my heart buddy...It's all good.. :dance:
John
