Dummy single coil

[LReese]

Re: Dummy single coil

I was wrong sorta - the EB's dummy coil is buffered. That being said I think the output of the dummy coil can be raised or lowered, just maybe not in its stock form.

 

[jstich]

Re: Dummy single coil

[grabs jstich by the collar and shakes him really hard]

I don't know what other info I can give.When the single coil is active, the humbucker is off. What info am I not telling you? Thanks for all the replies.

 

[LReese]

Re: Dummy single coil

Uh oh - I think we were too helpful. LOL

We blew his mind.

 

[idsnowdog]

Re: Dummy single coil

I don't know what other info I can give.When the single coil is active, the humbucker is off. What info am I not telling you? Thanks for all the replies.

What you are hearing is the sum of experience of our members. You can lower the noise with shielding, grounding and dummy coils but they aren't as effective as a humbucking pickup. If you are not 100% sold on the tone of the existing pickup start thinking of what you would want in a replacement.

 

[B2D]

Re: Dummy single coil

Part of the problem with a system like that is the dummy coil is calibrated to work with the stock pickups. If you deviate too far from the original values you lose the effect.

This is true. Before I went to the Duncan Stacks I had an SSL-52 in the bridge and APS-1's in the neck and middle... and not only did the hum vary from pickup to pickup, it had to get in on the dummy coil and tweak the mini-pot that was in there to readjust it. It took me a bit to figure that last part out though.

I was happier with the Stacks, to tell you the truth.

 

[uOpt]

Re: Dummy single coil

If you want to go with a blind coil setup by placing one under the pickguard you generally don't have to go through the trouble of hunting down a coil with no magnets. If it's far away enough from the strings you can use a regular pickup with magnets.\

The problem remains: in a specialized blind coil setup such as a stack you have specifically wound coils so that the electrical properties come out all right. If you use a regular SSL1 or whatever you will have to put the other one either in series or in parallel and that screws up resistance, capacitance and inductance. SOme stacks such as the JYM are made from extremely thin wire to get a coil amount of windows and then they are put in parallel with the blind coil. Very different thing.

 

[jstich]

Re: Dummy single coil

Geez Louise.I've been mostly using humbuckers for the lasr 30 years. I thought I'd be able to get rid of the hum without a degree from MIT.My Lynch guitar doesn't have a pick guard, so that rules the shielding idea out. I thought I'd be able to put a dummy coil connected to the single coil, but that seems unlikely, too.I guess I'll just have to deal with the hum. Sincere thanks to all who helped me. Stich

 

[Petrovsk Mizinski]

Re: Dummy single coil

I had a Music Man Silhouette Special with three single coils in there and Music Man's "Silent Circuit" which had an inductor wired into the electronics to act as a dummy coil to cancel hum. It worked very well as long as all three pickups were the same polarity, but changing pickups in and out was a pain stuffing all that wiring in there, working around the battery (it was an active system) and making sure my replacement pickups were the correct polarity.

I wound up gutting the guitar are going with Duncan Stacks... I believe I went with two STKS6's in the neck/middle slots and STKS9b in the bridge. I was very happy with that set. No noise whatsoever and almost impossible to tell from a true single, especially live. Much simpler wiring, too.

Yesss
The Stack Plus pickups are GREAT, not sure why they don't get more love.
Sound exactly like a single coil should and funnily enough, I found them to be even more effective at canceling hum than full size humbuckers.

 

[LReese]

Re: Dummy single coil

I quit buying stacked coil pickups after a number of disappointments. I did get a set of LW classic II's off this forum and they were pretty darned good as I remember but the usual issues with certain effects. Rails work better (IMO) for me.

That being said - The Ilitch solution is the best available solution (IMO) cost no object and no limitation on the exact single coil you use. Despite many statements to the opposite, you can use with RWRP middle pickups. Its a bit of a waste though seeing you would lose noise cancelling on 1 of the 5 positions of a Strat (assuming middle RWRP).

Suhr's new system is also fabulous but you can only have installed on a Suhr guitar.

 

[vinta9e]

Re: Dummy single coil

There is no pickguard or middle pickup on this guitar. The control cavity is tiny and fits just the push-pull volume knob.
A stacked coil pickup or backplate dummy coil is all that would physically fit. That isn't really that much choice.

 

[jstich]

Re: Dummy single coil

What's backplate dummy coil?I would still have to worry about it sounding good evn though it would cancel the hum?

 

[LReese]

Re: Dummy single coil

http://www.ilitchelectronics.com/strat-bpncs/

 

[jstich]

Re: Dummy single coil

Playing guitar 30 years and have never heard of the backplate dummy coil thing. Running it through my rocktron hush 2cx and that gets rid of quite a bit of the noise. As one poster said, that is single coils for ya. Thanks for all the helpful replies.