Duncan distortion neck magnet swap in bridge position
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Clint 55
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What don't you get? Just because the DDn uses 43 doesn't mean it's an underwound Custom and not a scaled DD.
eclecticsynergy
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As for underwound, I don't think it's truly applicable in this case since the SH-7 was originally intended as a bridge pickup.
It wasn't necessarily derived from the Distortion, just paired with it after the fact.
I put double thick A8s into a Distortion set I've got in a Les Paul Custom. It mellowed the harshness a bit and I like to think it might've given them a bouncier feel, though that might just be my expectations. They're still loud.
It wasn't necessarily derived from the Distortion, just paired with it after the fact.
I put double thick A8s into a Distortion set I've got in a Les Paul Custom. It mellowed the harshness a bit and I like to think it might've given them a bouncier feel, though that might just be my expectations. They're still loud.
Clint 55
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The semantics of a pickup can only be overwound or underwound if it uses the same gauge wire doesn't prove the DDn is a different model than the one it is designed around. That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. By your resoning, if I get a 9k JB from the custom shop, it's an overwound Jazz? Lol!
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you cannot get a 9k jb, anything 9k isnt a jb at all. you could have a 9k overwound jazz but just cause a pup is 9k doesnt mean its an overwound jazz. could be an overwound 59 or underwound demon or something with a different wire and wind.
as frank covered, the term overwound or underwound comes from more or less turns of wire on a pup compared to spec. changing the wire changes the pup.
as frank covered, the term overwound or underwound comes from more or less turns of wire on a pup compared to spec. changing the wire changes the pup.
Clint 55
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Jeremy, I HAVE calibrated sets of pickups made with different wire gauges and they clearly sound the same and are the same pickup. What you're suggesting is an insult to Seymour, that he can't voice 2 pickups alike if their wire gauges are different. That's just retarded.
I ordered a neck 4% overwind and bridge 8% overwind on my Fralin mini humbucker set and the neck came with 42 and the bridge came with 43. They sound the same and are most certainly the same model.
I ordered a neck 4% overwind and bridge 8% overwind on my Fralin mini humbucker set and the neck came with 42 and the bridge came with 43. They sound the same and are most certainly the same model.
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BeKindRewind
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Right. The wind is completely different, the sh6n has a much more mid focused wind and EQ than a custom. It's more like an underwound sh6 or sh4
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Masta' C
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You're a bit out of line, bro.
Yes, a winder shows admirable talent when they can take 2 different formulas and make them sound/perform similarly. However, that doesn't mean they are the "same" pickup.
"Underwound" and "overwound" refer to adding/removing turns of the SAME wire. Thus, the SH-6 is NOT an "overwound" version of the SH-6n, because they use different gauges of wire. If the SH-6n is 43 AWG, then it undeniably shares more physical DNA with the Custom, which also uses 43 AWG.
Your example of a "9K JB" doesn't make any sense at all. You can call it a "9K JB" in name, but that doesn't mean it is anything like the JB or shares any of the JB's DNA.
Clint 55
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False. That's circular reasoning. No explanation why the DDn and Custom which are advertised differently by Duncan, built differently, and sound differently are more related for the sole reason of using the same gauge wire than the Distortion set itself.
Associating all pickups by wire gauge isn't the only possibility. It's also possible to scale the same model using different wire as proven with my Fralin set. I'm sure Duncan could scale any of his pickups like that. If he built a Pearly Gates with 43 it wouldn't arbitrarily become the Jason Becker would it?
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Clint 55
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I'm nuts? You're saying The DDn is by definition a Custom derivative because of 1 parameter. Lol!
So how the DDn sounds in the bridge is subjective. I personally hear it as being the same pickup as the big brother bridge pickup with the mid spike and synthetic fuzz. Doesn't sound scooped to me like the Custom wind. But even if they do sound differently, why would the DDn be by definition a Custom derivative just because it has 43? Thousands of pickups use 43. Are they all the Custom? Are you retarded?
So how the DDn sounds in the bridge is subjective. I personally hear it as being the same pickup as the big brother bridge pickup with the mid spike and synthetic fuzz. Doesn't sound scooped to me like the Custom wind. But even if they do sound differently, why would the DDn be by definition a Custom derivative just because it has 43? Thousands of pickups use 43. Are they all the Custom? Are you retarded?
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Masta' C
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You're an idiot. Nothing more to say
Masta' C
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This ad from 1979, often used to highlight the SH-5 as an early VH model, shows what would eventually be called the SH-7, but simply states "series/parallel".
It's also labeled as the "Seymourizer II" in this ad and also on the 1981 price sheet. It's been suggested that the "II" designation referred to the change of the original "Seymourizer" to a neck-specific model, but that doesn't appear to be the case. Perhaps the "II" designation represented the move from single-conductor to 4-conductor wiring for the series/parallel option.
The 1988 catalog does show it as the "SH-7 Seymourizer II Neck" model, but gives no details about it at all.
On a side note, it's crazy to think the JB was nearly the same price in 1979 as it is today! Yay Seymour!
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