duncan wire gauges? are they listed anywhere?
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Snoogles
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Re: duncan wire gauges? are they listed anywhere?
trying to gain a better understanding of pickups
i've been reading the "build your own custom/59 thread", and it seems that one of the characteristics of this particular hybrid is the pairing of mis-matched wire gauges
and other people have been making their own hybrid combinations, so i'd like to know more about why people might be choosing certain combinations, and seeing if i can identify a pattern, rather than continually making new threads asking "will a ???/??? sound good?"
trying to gain a better understanding of pickups
i've been reading the "build your own custom/59 thread", and it seems that one of the characteristics of this particular hybrid is the pairing of mis-matched wire gauges
and other people have been making their own hybrid combinations, so i'd like to know more about why people might be choosing certain combinations, and seeing if i can identify a pattern, rather than continually making new threads asking "will a ???/??? sound good?"
LtKojak
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Re: duncan wire gauges? are they listed anywhere?
#42: '59, PG, Seth, Ants, AIIPro, Jazz, Slash, Bonamassa, '78
#43: Custom
#44: JB, Distortion
Those are from the top of my head, some others I know but I don't remember, the rest I just don't know.
HTH,
#42: '59, PG, Seth, Ants, AIIPro, Jazz, Slash, Bonamassa, '78
#43: Custom
#44: JB, Distortion
Those are from the top of my head, some others I know but I don't remember, the rest I just don't know.
HTH,
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RayBarbeeMusic
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Re: duncan wire gauges? are they listed anywhere?
Riddle me this:
If the '59 neck and Jazz neck both use 42, or the jazz vs. any other 'standard' paf for that matter, and the DCR really isn't much different, and using A5............
Why does the jazz neck sound so damn different?
Riddle me this:
If the '59 neck and Jazz neck both use 42, or the jazz vs. any other 'standard' paf for that matter, and the DCR really isn't much different, and using A5............
Why does the jazz neck sound so damn different?
LtKojak
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Re: duncan wire gauges? are they listed anywhere?
Two things:
1. the '59 uses Plain Enamel wire, the Jazz SPN (Single Poly Nylon) wire.
2. the coil geometry (the way the wire is layed into the bobbin) is different in both cases.
HTH,
Two things:
1. the '59 uses Plain Enamel wire, the Jazz SPN (Single Poly Nylon) wire.
2. the coil geometry (the way the wire is layed into the bobbin) is different in both cases.
HTH,
RayBarbeeMusic
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Re: duncan wire gauges? are they listed anywhere?
Interesting. So from that I could glean that SPN sounds tighter/brighter?
Interesting. So from that I could glean that SPN sounds tighter/brighter?
zenmindbeginner
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Re: duncan wire gauges? are they listed anywhere?
Resistance pretty much can tell you what wire they used. Lower output pickups use 42, medium 43 and high output 44.
Like Kojak said, different coatings on the wire and how it is actually laid on the bobbin will dictate how the pickup will ultimately sound even though you might have two different sounding pickups that are the same wire gauge.
Prolly 43AWG since it is a medium output pickup.
Resistance pretty much can tell you what wire they used. Lower output pickups use 42, medium 43 and high output 44.
Like Kojak said, different coatings on the wire and how it is actually laid on the bobbin will dictate how the pickup will ultimately sound even though you might have two different sounding pickups that are the same wire gauge.
Prolly 43AWG since it is a medium output pickup.
Re: duncan wire gauges? are they listed anywhere?
The Demon at 10k is only slightly more resistence than a '59b at 8.13k. Way less than a Custon5 at 14.4k, and not even close to the JB at 16.4k. It may be considered a medium output pup, but it is closer to a low output pup than a medium output pup, and it performs more like a PAF.
You would have to say that it is using 42ga like a PAF but with a few more winds, or 43ga like a Custom, but with a LOT LESS winds.
Anyone know for sure?
The Demon at 10k is only slightly more resistence than a '59b at 8.13k. Way less than a Custon5 at 14.4k, and not even close to the JB at 16.4k. It may be considered a medium output pup, but it is closer to a low output pup than a medium output pup, and it performs more like a PAF.
You would have to say that it is using 42ga like a PAF but with a few more winds, or 43ga like a Custom, but with a LOT LESS winds.
Anyone know for sure?
allstarrme
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Re: duncan wire gauges? are they listed anywhere?
42 awg: PG's, Brobucker
43 awg: FullShred Bridge, Custom, DD neck, Screamin Demon
44 awg: Alt8, DD bridge
some more numbers to the list.
I've been thinking an Alt 8 with full shred bridge, either A8 or cermaic would be awesome, and a pearly gates bridge with a screamin demon for a neck pickup would rock.
I would try a brobucker with a DD neck even if I found a cheap or busted up BB, but doubtful.
42 awg: PG's, Brobucker
43 awg: FullShred Bridge, Custom, DD neck, Screamin Demon
44 awg: Alt8, DD bridge
some more numbers to the list.
I've been thinking an Alt 8 with full shred bridge, either A8 or cermaic would be awesome, and a pearly gates bridge with a screamin demon for a neck pickup would rock.
I would try a brobucker with a DD neck even if I found a cheap or busted up BB, but doubtful.
DrNewcenstein
He Did the Monster Mash
Re: duncan wire gauges? are they listed anywhere?
"Good" is entirely subjective. While it's possible that a given combination might have a weak or lopsided output (Jazz neck coil + Invader coil), whether that sounds "good" or "bad" depends on who's using it and for what. Might be a "hot single coil neck in a 2-hum axe without the big gaping hole in the guitar" or it might be a "clean that kinda breaks up through an old Princeton that works well with my Modern Jazz Quartet".
Your best bet is to simply experiment and find what works for you, rather than delve into what could be proprietary company info.
"Good" is entirely subjective. While it's possible that a given combination might have a weak or lopsided output (Jazz neck coil + Invader coil), whether that sounds "good" or "bad" depends on who's using it and for what. Might be a "hot single coil neck in a 2-hum axe without the big gaping hole in the guitar" or it might be a "clean that kinda breaks up through an old Princeton that works well with my Modern Jazz Quartet".
Your best bet is to simply experiment and find what works for you, rather than delve into what could be proprietary company info.
gripweed
Jolvisologist
Re: duncan wire gauges? are they listed anywhere?
You could argue that, and many have. I think it comes down to wind and insulation. A tighter wound pickup will sound different than a looser wound pickup. The insulation on the wire is important too -- different types of insulation will allow only so much total wire on a pickup. Single poly will be a different width than a heavy formvar for example. But I don't think the insulation itself really imparts any specific sound on a pickup.
You could argue that, and many have. I think it comes down to wind and insulation. A tighter wound pickup will sound different than a looser wound pickup. The insulation on the wire is important too -- different types of insulation will allow only so much total wire on a pickup. Single poly will be a different width than a heavy formvar for example. But I don't think the insulation itself really imparts any specific sound on a pickup.
Marco78
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Re: duncan wire gauges? are they listed anywhere?
Do you know other wire type use on some SD humbucker?
Do you know other wire type use on some SD humbucker?
darthphineas
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Re: duncan wire gauges? are they listed anywhere?
this is a groovy thread.
this is a groovy thread.
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