Early 80's JB....HOT !!!!!
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beaubrummels
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13 years later. Thanks for bringing us up to date.
13 years later. Thanks for bringing us up to date.
Silence Kid
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Eh, I still don't mind people bumping things, this is a bit interesting to consider. But I don't think it's anything to do with "the old ones are different." Maybe just "sometimes they get past QC
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Eh, I still don't mind people bumping things, this is a bit interesting to consider. But I don't think it's anything to do with "the old ones are different." Maybe just "sometimes they get past QC
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Obsessive Compulsive
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How 'bout getting a job, as opposed to digging up old threads nobody cares.
How 'bout getting a job, as opposed to digging up old threads nobody cares.
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Odd forum glitch.
It showed up on like page 2 of recent posts for me...didnt notice
Also, it was a Sunday fyi. So that should be "get religion, heathen", "make some friends go have a beer", or "get a girlfriend, loser". Imho.
Odd forum glitch.
It showed up on like page 2 of recent posts for me...didnt notice
Also, it was a Sunday fyi. So that should be "get religion, heathen", "make some friends go have a beer", or "get a girlfriend, loser". Imho.
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As long the people that bump them don`t mind the smart ass commets they`re gonna get we`re good to go
Eh, I still don't mind people bumping things, this is a bit interesting to consider. But I don't think it's anything to do with "the old ones are different." Maybe just "sometimes they get past QC
As long the people that bump them don`t mind the smart ass commets they`re gonna get we`re good to go
Chistopher
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I'm suprised this thread is 13 years old and Darth Phineas hasn't chimed in. He's got a pretty neat JB from back in this time period.
I'm suprised this thread is 13 years old and Darth Phineas hasn't chimed in. He's got a pretty neat JB from back in this time period.
beaubrummels
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I think bumping an old thread is fine if some actual interesting information is added. Not quite seeing that here, however; hence my 'smart ass' comment.
Back on topic, what people should realize is that high resistance doesn't mean it's a hotter pickup. My understanding is most Duncans are wound to a turn count, so higher resistance could just mean there happened to be thicker wire back in the day or the bobbins were bigger/thicker back in the day, but it should sound the same and I believe have about the same output. If the resistance (not the output) is unusually high, then it could be defective. I know from experience a damaged, partially shorted pickup can read unusually high in resistance.
I have two old production JBs and a new production JB and the old ones sound better (more highs and lows and clearer mids than my new production) and the old ones happen to measure higher in resistance but do not sound louder/hotter; e.g. I can swap them out of the same guitar and not change settings on the guitar or amp and have it respond to gain/distortion the same way, though touch sensitivity is better with the older ones.
I think bumping an old thread is fine if some actual interesting information is added. Not quite seeing that here, however; hence my 'smart ass' comment.
Back on topic, what people should realize is that high resistance doesn't mean it's a hotter pickup. My understanding is most Duncans are wound to a turn count, so higher resistance could just mean there happened to be thicker wire back in the day or the bobbins were bigger/thicker back in the day, but it should sound the same and I believe have about the same output. If the resistance (not the output) is unusually high, then it could be defective. I know from experience a damaged, partially shorted pickup can read unusually high in resistance.
I have two old production JBs and a new production JB and the old ones sound better (more highs and lows and clearer mids than my new production) and the old ones happen to measure higher in resistance but do not sound louder/hotter; e.g. I can swap them out of the same guitar and not change settings on the guitar or amp and have it respond to gain/distortion the same way, though touch sensitivity is better with the older ones.
eclecticsynergy
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It's pretty well established there's variation in wire thickness, and Duncans are definitely wound to a specified number of turns. I don't think wire tolerances could account for that much difference; IMO there has to be something else going on.
My oldest JB reads lowest- it's an '80s JBJ that measured 15.74. I have a 90s one and an 00s one that read 16.2 and 16.4; output-wise all three are right in the same ball park. The old one sounds better to me too but that may be due more to the magnet (rough A5 vs smooth?) than the coils themselves. Or not, maybe it's the MJ magic.
Anyway, somehow I feel it's unlikely that mere differences in wire could account for such a high reading. Maybe the OP's was a custom wind that wasn't marked?
It's pretty well established there's variation in wire thickness, and Duncans are definitely wound to a specified number of turns. I don't think wire tolerances could account for that much difference; IMO there has to be something else going on.
My oldest JB reads lowest- it's an '80s JBJ that measured 15.74. I have a 90s one and an 00s one that read 16.2 and 16.4; output-wise all three are right in the same ball park. The old one sounds better to me too but that may be due more to the magnet (rough A5 vs smooth?) than the coils themselves. Or not, maybe it's the MJ magic.
Anyway, somehow I feel it's unlikely that mere differences in wire could account for such a high reading. Maybe the OP's was a custom wind that wasn't marked?
Jacew
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Could corrosion affect the resistance, so it reads higher despite the wire gauge and turns being the same?
Could corrosion affect the resistance, so it reads higher despite the wire gauge and turns being the same?
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