El Diablo question
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oilpit
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Re: El Diablo question
I've never tried an El Diablo, the specs make it look like it would be an extremely dark explosion of midrange with no high end whatsoever. However I've read a few posts/reviews saying that it actually has a relatively flat EQ, with gobs of agression and output. If that's the case, I imagine it would work pretty well.
However since I've ever tried one, or even heard a clip of one, I can't in good conscience recommend one.
That being said, I think there are paths you can take before dropping that much money on a pickup that may or may not work in your guitar.
Can you tell us what kind of tone you are going for beyond just "heavy"?
I've never tried an El Diablo, the specs make it look like it would be an extremely dark explosion of midrange with no high end whatsoever. However I've read a few posts/reviews saying that it actually has a relatively flat EQ, with gobs of agression and output. If that's the case, I imagine it would work pretty well.
However since I've ever tried one, or even heard a clip of one, I can't in good conscience recommend one.
That being said, I think there are paths you can take before dropping that much money on a pickup that may or may not work in your guitar.
Can you tell us what kind of tone you are going for beyond just "heavy"?
lazyfinger
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Re: El Diablo question
Duncan Distortion. Especially since Chevelle does Drop B.
Duncan Distortion. Especially since Chevelle does Drop B.
Re: El Diablo question
Really? I tried it as well and it was too bright. I used the JB and the Distortion and they both seemed to be too bright. I have a single volume 500k pot and that's about it. It rings out soooo much which I guess adds to the brightness. Also the neck is not maple but mahogany with a rosewood fingerboard. It's still bright!
Really? I tried it as well and it was too bright. I used the JB and the Distortion and they both seemed to be too bright. I have a single volume 500k pot and that's about it. It rings out soooo much which I guess adds to the brightness. Also the neck is not maple but mahogany with a rosewood fingerboard. It's still bright!
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metalmachine
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i dont want to insult you becuase i could very very likely be wrong. so please keep that in mind. but i think there may be a possibility that you are not aware of how many highs it takes to to cut thru a mix. now remeber i know there is a great possibility that i am wrong as i have never heard you rig.
anyways, assuming i am right, see how it does in a band mix. assuming i am wrongs. sounds like it may be your amp cab or speakers
i dont want to insult you becuase i could very very likely be wrong. so please keep that in mind. but i think there may be a possibility that you are not aware of how many highs it takes to to cut thru a mix. now remeber i know there is a great possibility that i am wrong as i have never heard you rig.
anyways, assuming i am right, see how it does in a band mix. assuming i am wrongs. sounds like it may be your amp cab or speakers
Re: El Diablo question
Well I've tried it through multiple amps: peavey classic 30, Crate Blue Voodoo, and Marshall Lead Mosfet, and a Line 6 Spyder and it still sounded too bright out of all of them. Even when I boosted the bass a little it still had too much of a bright sound :/. I wonder if it's the jB sounding so funky. The pickup is also has a single conductor wire so I know I didn't wire it wronf
Well I've tried it through multiple amps: peavey classic 30, Crate Blue Voodoo, and Marshall Lead Mosfet, and a Line 6 Spyder and it still sounded too bright out of all of them. Even when I boosted the bass a little it still had too much of a bright sound :/. I wonder if it's the jB sounding so funky. The pickup is also has a single conductor wire so I know I didn't wire it wronf
lazyfinger
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Re: El Diablo question
Well something thicker with bigger bottom end would be Custom or Custom 8. Custom 8 is pretty thick based on the consensus here.
Generally as one goes lower in tuning, a pickup with good amount of highs and tight low end is desired. Pup with lots of full, thick, beefy midrange sound gets muddy that low.
Well something thicker with bigger bottom end would be Custom or Custom 8. Custom 8 is pretty thick based on the consensus here.
Generally as one goes lower in tuning, a pickup with good amount of highs and tight low end is desired. Pup with lots of full, thick, beefy midrange sound gets muddy that low.
Re: El Diablo question
I generally keep it at standard and never drop past Drop C unless certain songs require me to. I guess my thought Is that the el-diablo seems to make sense but if you guys think I should look st others I can. I just want it to sound more powerful and not as thin as it does.
I generally keep it at standard and never drop past Drop C unless certain songs require me to. I guess my thought Is that the el-diablo seems to make sense but if you guys think I should look st others I can. I just want it to sound more powerful and not as thin as it does.
lazyfinger
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Re: El Diablo question
For standard tuning, EL Diablo is certainly great pickup for the job, as well as Custom 8, Custom, and Invader. They're aggressive and real thick sounding. And they're also pretty tight.
It's just that when you said Chevelle and Disturbed, I assumed you wanted to stay more in the realms of alternate tuning. I can't recall a single Chevelle song in E standard, :scratchch.
For standard tuning, EL Diablo is certainly great pickup for the job, as well as Custom 8, Custom, and Invader. They're aggressive and real thick sounding. And they're also pretty tight.
It's just that when you said Chevelle and Disturbed, I assumed you wanted to stay more in the realms of alternate tuning. I can't recall a single Chevelle song in E standard, :scratchch.
brunogio
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Re: El Diablo question
So I play an El Diablo in a mahogany guitar with rosewood neck (Washburn dd-60 to be more precise)
I don't think of it as overly bright. it has a lot of umph to be sure and stays within the ceramic range of sound. Not as dark as the Iommi.
JB tends to sound a bright and not quite right in some mahogany guitars and there are a lot of people who mod it with either an A8 or A2 magnet to warm it up.
I don't think you'll need to do the same with the Diablo and should still expect a lot of output.
So I play an El Diablo in a mahogany guitar with rosewood neck (Washburn dd-60 to be more precise)
I don't think of it as overly bright. it has a lot of umph to be sure and stays within the ceramic range of sound. Not as dark as the Iommi.
JB tends to sound a bright and not quite right in some mahogany guitars and there are a lot of people who mod it with either an A8 or A2 magnet to warm it up.
I don't think you'll need to do the same with the Diablo and should still expect a lot of output.
