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Can anyone give me a rundown on the sound differences b/t the Engl Savage and Engl Powerball? i tend to run for the powerball since it's 6l6 powered and all the amps i seem to like are 6l6 amps for some reason...but the Savage sounds sweet also fom what i have heard. i've listened to tons of clips of both and depending on settings they can sound quite similar in clips (to my ears) or fairly different (both sound great)!! is that the case live and in person (that they are fairly similar) or are they drastically different sounds...sometimes you just can't tell from a clip. basically any info about the two and how they relate to eachother in terms of gain, treble, mid. and bass would be great...such as which seems to have a more usable high gain and which has more low end etc etc along those lines. the amp will be used 90%+ for high gain metal and punk.
oh and i ask b/c i think it's time for a new head and matching 4x12 cab and so far Engl is leading in my choices but i can't count out a good ol' mesa dual recto. and i'm even contemplating a line 6 vetta II so i can cover all grounds and sounds with it. right now i have a peavey ultra plus 120W head which i use through a marshall 1960 cab with no complaints and i will be keeping and i also have a '79 marshall JMP 50w that collects dust and for bedroom use a podXT/atomic 1x12 combo which can get some killer sounds which makes me think the vetta II might not be a bad choice for me.
my head is spinning with amp choices so i figured i'd try and get it down to one of the two Engls at least against a dual rect and the vetta II then go down from there 'til i figure out which fits my needs best.
so far and Engl seems like the best route and the dual rect is just a safe fallback since i know i can get sounds i like from it from using them in the studio for rehersal. but that vetta II may be great since it covers mesa sounds, engl sounds, 5150 sounds tons of built in effects, two amps at once and even diezel sounds which is a great bonus since a diezel is a bit above the price i'm willing to spend on a head and 4x12 cab (are they nuts? lol)....or i may kick myself if the vetta II won't cut through the mix like some say modeling amps tend to do....anyone have any info on that? can the vetta II keep up in high gain situations and at times with semi-scooped mids or will it just get lost as the mids get turned down? that's seems to be my only fear with the vetta II...i know i can get it to sound good with tweaking, that's not a problem at all since i can get my podxt/atomic 1x12 to sound great but i only use that for practice, not with my whole loud ass band hahaha.
any info on any of the above would be great from owners of the amps or people who have tried them.
thanks!!!
-Mike
oh and i ask b/c i think it's time for a new head and matching 4x12 cab and so far Engl is leading in my choices but i can't count out a good ol' mesa dual recto. and i'm even contemplating a line 6 vetta II so i can cover all grounds and sounds with it. right now i have a peavey ultra plus 120W head which i use through a marshall 1960 cab with no complaints and i will be keeping and i also have a '79 marshall JMP 50w that collects dust and for bedroom use a podXT/atomic 1x12 combo which can get some killer sounds which makes me think the vetta II might not be a bad choice for me.
my head is spinning with amp choices so i figured i'd try and get it down to one of the two Engls at least against a dual rect and the vetta II then go down from there 'til i figure out which fits my needs best.
so far and Engl seems like the best route and the dual rect is just a safe fallback since i know i can get sounds i like from it from using them in the studio for rehersal. but that vetta II may be great since it covers mesa sounds, engl sounds, 5150 sounds tons of built in effects, two amps at once and even diezel sounds which is a great bonus since a diezel is a bit above the price i'm willing to spend on a head and 4x12 cab (are they nuts? lol)....or i may kick myself if the vetta II won't cut through the mix like some say modeling amps tend to do....anyone have any info on that? can the vetta II keep up in high gain situations and at times with semi-scooped mids or will it just get lost as the mids get turned down? that's seems to be my only fear with the vetta II...i know i can get it to sound good with tweaking, that's not a problem at all since i can get my podxt/atomic 1x12 to sound great but i only use that for practice, not with my whole loud ass band hahaha.
any info on any of the above would be great from owners of the amps or people who have tried them.
thanks!!!
-Mike
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