Engl users, care to rebottle ???

Re: Engl users, care to rebottle ???

well... this seriously tilts the favor back to the laney GH50L instead of the engl Thunder.
i seriously thought they had a better construction than that
 
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Hehe you guys crack me up :D Today I had band practise and I'm pluging the T.C. G-Major into the Screamer...no signal..dang I started sweating and thought 'bout the thread here..checked the thing for some seconds..well..the clean channel volume was down..ok cool it works...he? no delay, the fx loop is broken? Finally I saw that I've turned the fx loop off....everything worked again!

Phew!
 
Re: Engl users, care to rebottle ???

People should also think of this much, wire is wire, there isnt that much difference to it.

I am on the education in the computer business, but we have classes together with the low current electricians, so I do know a bit ;)
 
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I've been a Boogie user just about from the get go of my playing career. I've owned and played Boogies since 1991 and just recently bought a Engl Blackmore about 6 months ago. Let me tell you that after owning a .50 cal+( my first and still have it) 2 MKIII's, a MKIV, a dual recto, a triple recto, a 2:90 and two Studio preamps, this Blackmore is everything the Boogies were not. I'm finally completely happy with my tone after playing Boogies for 15 years. And I gig about twice a month nowadays and so far, no problems( knock on wood), and I bought the amp used, so it's at least a year old or more.
 
Re: Engl users, care to rebottle ???

I've been a Boogie user just about from the get go of my playing career. I've owned and played Boogies since 1991 and just recently bought a Engl Blackmore about 6 months ago. Let me tell you that after owning a .50 cal+( my first and still have it) 2 MKIII's, a MKIV, a dual recto, a triple recto, a 2:90 and two Studio preamps, this Blackmore is everything the Boogies were not. I'm finally completely happy with my tone after playing Boogies for 15 years. And I gig about twice a month nowadays and so far, no problems( knock on wood), and I bought the amp used, so it's at least a year old or more.
I love good news! Hope the amp will last forever! :fingersx:
 
Re: Engl users, care to rebottle ???

I've been a Boogie user just about from the get go of my playing career. I've owned and played Boogies since 1991 and just recently bought a Engl Blackmore about 6 months ago. Let me tell you that after owning a .50 cal+( my first and still have it) 2 MKIII's, a MKIV, a dual recto, a triple recto, a 2:90 and two Studio preamps, this Blackmore is everything the Boogies were not. I'm finally completely happy with my tone after playing Boogies for 15 years. And I gig about twice a month nowadays and so far, no problems( knock on wood), and I bought the amp used, so it's at least a year old or more.

Scott,

does the Engl Blackmore do a good job of getting that great, woody tone that Blackmore used to get from his high-wattage Marshalls? -I've always loved how big, woody and clear Blackmore's tone was...
 
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well, Blackmore was using modded Marshall Majors and they are VERY loud and distinct. The Engl is very cutting and clear, and the crunch channel( channel 3) just might pull off the old Blackmore tone, but like I said, he was using a Major.
 
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All I know about this thread, having never played an Engl, is that for the entire first two pages I've been confused about asking Engl owners if they want to "rebottle."

First I thought there was some field study that found that Engl users prefering a specific brand of beer. Then, for a while I thought it was a tube-related question.

Then I realized that the thread starter meant "rebuttal."

Sorry Dude, my spelling isn't the best and I am to lazy to spellcheck, never the less I should be ashamed of myself, I am married to a lawer.
 
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Just MHO, of course... but there is VERY much truth in the original post.... but just like most bedroom players never have problems with peavey or crate, so the don´t with Engl, either. But what the **** good is a "professional" guitar amplifier if it can´t stand the trials of the tour for more than a month? ;)

For informational purposes after reading all of this and taking it into account, what do you consider to be reliable and withstanding amplifiers?

(i ask because i havent gotten up to getting such grade amps yet and would like to know for future reference your oppinon)
 
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Interesting thread.

I don't know about boutique amps, but in the UK, I certainly wouldn't class Engl's in the same way I would class Bogners or Cornfords etc.

For example, my Screamer ran me about the same as a Marshall TSL - and I know which one I'd prefer any day of the week. A Powerball is roughly the price of a Peavey JSX and the all singing, all dancing EL34 SE about the price of a Triple Recto. Again, tone wise, I'd pick an Engl on each occasion.

I've had my Screamer over a year, gigged it pretty hard and not had any problems. Also, their cab's are probably the strongest I've seen (14 ply siberian birch!!!)

Guys like Doug Aldrich, Steve Morse and Ritchie Blackmore can't be wrong!!!
 
Re: Engl users, care to rebottle ???

All I know about this thread, having never played an Engl, is that for the entire first two pages I've been confused about asking Engl owners if they want to "rebottle."

First I thought there was some field study that found that Engl users prefering a specific brand of beer. Then, for a while I thought it was a tube-related question.

Then I realized that the thread starter meant "rebuttal."
I thought he did it to get past the auto censor .. :blackeye:
 
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Sorry Dude, my spelling isn't the best and I am to lazy to spellcheck, never the less I should be ashamed of myself, I am married to a lawer.


Oh it's cool - I'm just having some fun. I was genuinely confused about the thread title for a while, though. :)
 
Re: Engl users, care to rebottle ???

People should also think of this much, wire is wire, there isnt that much difference to it.

I am on the education in the computer business, but we have classes together with the low current electricians, so I do know a bit ;)

ah, but it is not.

that wire, from my experience isnt much bigger than 0.5 sq mm 0.75 at best.. and that is rated for low ampere, low voltage use. no more than 100V. internal amp voltages can exceed that three fold. not to mention the currents.

it is not adviseable to run those cables for anything else but digital signals

it's the cross section of the wire, that is the biggest problem.
 
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People should also think of this much, wire is wire, there isnt that much difference to it.

And that´s probably why we us foot thick cables for internal PC wiring and ribbon wires for transporting high voltages for miles, right?? :chairfall

If "Wire is wire", then why do so many buildings burn down each year from inadequate wiring, usually related to cross section and thereby current handling capability?

Sorry, but your statement proves a general lack of knowledge about electronics and in particulart voltage / current/ resistance relations. At least outside of a low-current setting, low current being <1A. In guitar amps we´re talking about multiple hundred Amperes, currents that are far from low ;)

For informational purposes after reading all of this and taking it into account, what do you consider to be reliable and withstanding amplifiers?

(i ask because i havent gotten up to getting such grade amps yet and would like to know for future reference your oppinon)

Most Marshalls, most Fenders, the Framus amps Ive seen, Hughes&Kettner, VHT, Mesa, most boutique stuff such as Bogner or Splawn.... probably left a few manufacturers out *edit* like Ampeg */edit*.... ;)
 
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Re: Engl users, care to rebottle ???

In guitar amps we´re talking about multiple hundred Amperes, currents that are far from low ;)

are you sure about that?

multiple hundred AMPERES?? i hope you were thinking volts, cos multiple hundred amperes isnt even possible in theory ;)
 
Re: Engl users, care to rebottle ???

are you sure about that?

multiple hundred AMPERES?? i hope you were thinking volts, cos multiple hundred amperes isnt even possible in theory ;)

Yes, sorry, brainfart... this is what happens when you talk about guitar amps and are wiring up 5 phase High current outlets at the same time ;)
 
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To put it into perspective: the voltages and currents inside a PC or other home electronics device will have a much harder time terminating you than the Big Boy tube amps, where a mere Cap discharge may also be your discharge ;)
 
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Actually I am on the low current education so... That might explain it, but what I cannot understand is how it is even possible to get it CE approved if its using inadequate cabling for power? That seems totally wack.
 
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This is from plexipalace, war really surprised to read this .....

"I read that ENGL's are like the Peavey or Crate of Germany. People in the USA think they're a real high-end amp because they're so expensive but anything made in Germany is expensive here.

That's like saying that Fenders and Mesa's are the Crate's of the US. Import duties, tax and transport across the oceans make amps expensive, exotic and desirable.

An Engl Sceamer (with footswitch) costs around 1200 Euro's in Europe which is around 1440 US Dollars whilst a Fender Twin Amp costs 1200$ in the US.

On the other hand, the Twin Amp costs 1600 Euros or 1920$ in Europe....

An so on...

M.
 
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