Enjoying the tone befefits of an unfinished guitar

[Clint 55]

Re: Enjoying the tone befefits of an unfinished guitar

Some posts here indicate that resonance represents the body sucking tone from the string.

That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. When all the components work together and resonate well, it enhances the sound.

 

[Clint 55]

Re: Enjoying the tone befefits of an unfinished guitar

IMO a painted finish has to contribute to removing the guitar's ability voice to its peak. I removed a black paint finish from a strat body and there were pounds of paint, primer, and filler. A guitar that sings when you play it can be felt in the hands and against you body. A guitar that has wood that perhaps was rushed into production and not properly dried or has to many built up layers of finish and body work is dead sounding. It may still sound decent, but if you've played or have some good ones then you know the difference when you hear and feel it.

i have an acoustic, a Tanglewood TW45-OPE........the OP stands for 'open pore'. Basically, they use a very very minimal finish, don't pore-fill etc, (feels like raw wood really) to 'enhance' the tone - warmer, more 'open'. it would have a different tone if i put a heavier finish on it.....(ok, this is an acoustic so will be different, but it makes the point...)

Yes, I agree. That was well said. The guitar's ability to voice to its peak. I am obsessed with that. Because although the guitar can sound good many ways. I can't deal if I know something is hindering it.

 

[justFred]

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Not so scientific experiment...took a 3/4X5 1/2X9 piece of oak (only thing handy), taped a Fishman Presys piezo pickup on it, placed tapped tuning fork, set on wood and measured output at 875mV...same thing on that piece of wood with 10 coats of enamel paint and output 560mV....did 20 repetitions on each and #s are averaged...I don't know what the h**l this means but paint does something.

 

[Clint 55]

Re: Enjoying the tone befefits of an unfinished guitar

Wow, great experiment!

 

[Chistopher]

Re: Enjoying the tone befefits of an unfinished guitar

Not so scientific experiment...took a 3/4X5 1/2X9 piece of oak (only thing handy), taped a Fishman Presys piezo pickup on it, placed tapped tuning fork, set on wood and measured output at 875mV...same thing on that piece of wood with 10 coats of enamel paint and output 560mV....did 20 repetitions on each and #s are averaged...I don't know what the h**l this means but paint does something.

Piezo electric pickups sense the vibrations of both the wood and the strings, so of course it made a difference. If you used a electromagnetic pickup mounted to a plank of wood with tuners installed into both ends it would be more accurate.

 

[justFred]

Re: Enjoying the tone befefits of an unfinished guitar

Piezo electric pickups sense the vibrations of both the wood and the strings, so of course it made a difference. If you used a electromagnetic pickup mounted to a plank of wood with tuners installed into both ends it would be more accurate.

go for it....

 

[Clint 55]

Re: Enjoying the tone befefits of an unfinished guitar

Well that proves that finish changes the acoustic properties of the wood. And acoustic properties affecting ampd sound even with electromagnetic pickups is a fact.

 

[Darg1911]

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Bored? Forum gotten too slow for ya? Just post a topic that you know is going to turn into another train wreck ...

Did you know that the size of ones johnson affects the tone of the guitar? That's the REAL reason for the differences in tone between different players playing the exact same guitars through the same exact rigs. Tone isn't in the finish (or lack thereof) and it's not in the fingers. Tone is in the johnson ...

 

[Mincer]

Re: Enjoying the tone befefits of an unfinished guitar

I don't know if it was claimed that this was scientific, so let's not get into all of this here.

 

[dave74]

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Did you know that the size of ones johnson affects the tone of the guitar? ...

I bet it wood!

 

[Chistopher]

Re: Enjoying the tone befefits of an unfinished guitar

My view on tonewood is the same as my view on certain political things I won't mention here, if you believe in it or not is your own choice, just don't try to force it on me.

 

[justFred]

Re: Enjoying the tone befefits of an unfinished guitar

My view on tonewood is the same as my view on certain political things I won't mention here, if you believe in it or not is your own choice, just don't try to force it on me.

Who forced anything on you???If you don't like the subject why read and unparticipate????

 

[Clint 55]

Re: Enjoying the tone befefits of an unfinished guitar

I usually don't view facts as something perpetrated against me.

 

[Chistopher]

Re: Enjoying the tone befefits of an unfinished guitar

Who forced anything on you???If you don't like the subject why read and unparticipate????

I didn't say anyone did.

 

[Mincer]

Re: Enjoying the tone befefits of an unfinished guitar

This isn't going the way that it should so it is closed for now.