Epiphone SG Prophecy

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Interesting discussion guys....to stir the pot some more

GuitarStv re: the guitar dater project dot org are they updated or do they still need updating? There are some new chinese factories that are not recognized. example the There is now an Unsung Factory in China with initials UC following the numbers that signify year, month and production number.

updated list from gibson website

I've got no idea how often the guitar dater is updated . . . but my general rule for buying crap still tends to stand:
If it's from China and your getting a 'highest quality' something for 'special price' . . . it likely a knock off. Especially when the guitar is coming straight to your door from China, with stickers on the back of the headstock that say "100% inspected and set up in the USA".
 
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Exactly. Fake Gibsons, yes lots of them. Fake Epi's, I doubt it. How much time and effort is anyone going to put into faking a used guitar that sells for several hundred dollars? Come on boys.

if your on the epiphone boards there fakes all the time!
 
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Dude, do you work for these guys or something? Don't take my word for it. Check for yourself . . .

I picked a guitar at random from the site . . . this Goldtop . . . http://www.tbargain.com/products/Epiphone-Les-Paul-LP-1956-Goldtop-P%252d90-pickups-Electric-Guitar.html.

Serial number can be read as 10021508111.

Then I checked the serial number: http://www.guitardaterproject.org/epiphone.aspx.

It's a fake.

EDIT - actually if you check the link posted by Fusion, the serial number doesn't even match Epiphone's numbering scheme.

****ing totally agree with you i seen them! zack wylde's are all over! Ebay is #1 for fakes!! buy from a store if you can.
 
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Ken and guitarstv: the tone is phenomenal on this one. I'll still take it whether fake or not. Its all about the tone.
 
T.Bargain.com Fake Epiphone Guitars

T.Bargain.com Fake Epiphone Guitars

I just sent a fake Epiphone 1956 Gold Top back to TBargain.com for a refund through PayPal. The website features real Epiphones, but what you will receive will be a low-end Chinese guitar with the headstock and truss rod cover faked to appear to be an Epiphone. It also had Epiphone inspection stickers on the back of headstock (sloppy looking printing). If you go to the Gill Guitar Company website and look at their LP P-90 model you will see the difference. This model is also available under the Austin brand. It came in a real-looking Epiphone box etc. The seller insisted that the guitar they sent was a genuine Epiphone and I even got an email from Gibson/Epiphone stating that the serial number provided by the seller was genuine. I didn't get a response when I asked them to submit the serial number off of the guitar they sent to me. PayPal's counterfeit office agreed that it was a fake and is granting a refund. The guitar was shipped from an address in China (with an insurance value of $75.00). I'm returning it to an address in Lawrenceville, Georgia. The Lawrenceville police department was very interested in my experience and may investigate further.
 
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It is really easy to fake credentials for something that isn't something known as the best. I had a college professor one time relate a story of a fraudulent professor that made fake credentials for his position. One of the many things that were wrong with the credentials was having been second in his class at one of the Ivy Leagues. He skated on by through a few years of lecturing as a fraudulent professor. Eventually he got caught after people started to notice that his credentials kept getting padded on his webpage with increasingly more phony claims. See eventually people were able to look into his claims because he was making claims that people could research and prove him wrong.

The point of this story is that it is entirely reasonable to assume that someone would make fake epiphones. People that buy epiphones, for the most part, know that they are not getting a prestigious instrument. Even if the instrument were of a lower quality, people would simply write it off as a cheap imitation of a Gibson, which is the way many regard epiphone already. Faking an epiphone is a lot easier to get away with. Honestly, before this thread I have never heard of anyone running a serial number on an epiphone. For good reason too: Serious guitarists generally disregard the foreign made subsidiary companies like epiphone and squier, and the rest of the people who buy those instruments dont tend to know what they are getting anyways, just that they aren't getting the expensive brand name guitars.

Going back to the story of the fraudulent professor: what he did at first was fake an epiphone. Nobody noticed. Then he took the same product and metaphorically put a Gibson logo on it. People are a bit more used to spotting fake Gibson's, so someone ran his serial number. When he did this, he got popped for it. Thats the way i see it anyways.

Besides, if the prophecy is a fake and crossbow likes it anyways, I dont think it matters all that much if it is real or fake.
 
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i have the same model guitar, i got it when the prophecy series just came out. Mine matches the stock photos with 2 knobs and an edge output jack. I have never seen one with 4 knobs and a front jack in any stores i frequent.
 
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i have the same model guitar, i got it when the prophecy series just came out. Mine matches the stock photos with 2 knobs and an edge output jack. I have never seen one with 4 knobs and a front jack in any stores i frequent.

I DONT KNOW WHAT TO SAY...PRE RELEASE MAYBE? I KNOW EPIPHONE DOES NOT RESPOND ALWAYS TO ENQUIRIES.

This has the same knob layout, and pickups.

http://www.electric-guitar-sales.com/epiphone-sg-prophecy-custom-ex-electric-list-1082/

Not sure what the story is...I'm far too lazy to read through all that ****.

CAN YOU SEND THE LINK AGAIN...BANDWIDTH EXCEEDED

Besides, if the prophecy is a fake and crossbow likes it anyways, I dont think it matters all that much if it is real or fake.

YUP...I THINK I'M MORE OF A TONE PERSON...LOL
 
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Popular serial that one... there is an Epiphone Les Paul on ebay in Australia at the mo with the same one (item number 150717081109)... No fake Epiphones...?!
 
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I would say more than likely they tweeked the design somewhere along the line. I know they did a redesign with the les pauls by moving the neck forward on the body. The older ones look completely different at the neck join.
 
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My SG Prophesy has the two controls with jack on the side. Mine is the Dirty Fingers pup model. Great guitar.

Nevertheless, if it looks good, plays good, and you love it, it doesn't really matter who made it. Enjoy.
 
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