EQ pedal placement ... NPD!

[SongsForTheDeaf]

so I got a Behringer EQ700 7 band eq and I'm just curious as to where to put it in my chain... my pedalboard is in my signature.

One thing to point out is I use my Catalinbread SFT on all the time as an overall tone shaper and foundation at the end of my dirt chain... should I have the EQ before the SFT or at the very end of my chain ? or first ? ... this is my first EQ pedal so excuse my lack of knowledge on them

Thanks!

 

[Johnny the Kid]

Re: EQ pedal placement ... NPD!

I put my Eq after the distortion.

 

[JOLLY]

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I personally prefer it in the effects loop.

 

[Reckless Abandon]

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I put mine first so it hits the amp. But it sounds like you have a pedal that does that and gives you your sound. So I'd go after. Or if you have a effects loop put it there

 

[t1r12003]

Re: EQ pedal placement ... NPD!

Depends on what tones you're trying to shape with your EQ. If you want to change the character of your guitar or pickups, then put it first. I'll use my GE-7 as a treble boost that way and put it first in my chain. Or you could drop bass frequencies and increase treble to make a neck humbucker sound more like a single coil. Or just boost the level and leave the frequencies alone and use it as a lead boost. If you want to shape the tone of your pedals even more, then put it after them. On my amps with effects loops, I'll put it in the loop to shape the tone of the amp, smiley face mid scoop for metal, etc.

Experimentation is best. We'll give you tips or examples of how we use it, but go with what your ear tells you sounds good.

 

[Johnny the Kid]

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I personally prefer it in the effects loop.

I could be going through the effects loop, but I prefer my pedals to hit the front end of the amp. Everything goes through the front, and I guess it works for me. I used to use the effects loop, but don't anymore.

 

[erksin]

Re: EQ pedal placement ... NPD!

Depends on what tones you're trying to shape with your EQ. If you want to change the character of your guitar or pickups, then put it first. I'll use my GE-7 as a treble boost that way and put it first in my chain. Or you could drop bass frequencies and increase treble to make a neck humbucker sound more like a single coil. Or just boost the level and leave the frequencies alone and use it as a lead boost. If you want to shape the tone of your pedals even more, then put it after them. On my amps with effects loops, I'll put it in the loop to shape the tone of the amp, smiley face mid scoop for metal, etc.

Experimentation is best. We'll give you tips or examples of how we use it, but go with what your ear tells you sounds good.

This is a good answer.

EQs can add some noise, FWIW - especially graphics. I don't typically like them before drives as the drives can amplify the noise. But if you're trying to use this thing to fatten your plain strings it's probably best to put it before your drives.

 

[SongsForTheDeaf]

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Thanks guys I will put it before my drives first and see how that goes... less noise the better but I also want to fatten up plain strings as Erksin knows from my previous thread. Just goanna be raising the mids essentially and maybe lowering some treble and bass

 

[erksin]

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Have you tried using the EQ on the SFT? You know how that Baxandall circuit works, right? Dial back the treble and bass and the middle comes up. You won't lose meat or brightness doing so.

I think you might be chasing your tail using the EQ, but give it a shot.

 

[SongsForTheDeaf]

Re: EQ pedal placement ... NPD!

Have you tried using the EQ on the SFT? You know how that Baxandall circuit works, right? Dial back the treble and bass and the middle comes up. You won't lose meat or brightness doing so.

I think you might be chasing your tail using the EQ, but give it a shot.

you know what I actually have not touched the SFTs EQ since I got it I kind of set it and forget it...I will play around with it tonight aswell... I only spent 45 bucks on the EQ I got on ebay so its not too bad and I will still put it on my board for different uses like filter effects aswell etc... Thanks for the suggestion, It makes a lot of sense since the SFT is on all the time..

 

[SongsForTheDeaf]

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I heard EQ pedals can stop feedback but can they cut out guitar grounding hum aswell ? just curious

 

[Aceman]

Re: EQ pedal placement ... NPD!

Depends on what tones you're trying to shape with your EQ. If you want to change the character of your guitar or pickups, then put it first. I'll use my GE-7 as a treble boost that way and put it first in my chain. Or you could drop bass frequencies and increase treble to make a neck humbucker sound more like a single coil. Or just boost the level and leave the frequencies alone and use it as a lead boost. If you want to shape the tone of your pedals even more, then put it after them. On my amps with effects loops, I'll put it in the loop to shape the tone of the amp, smiley face mid scoop for metal, etc.

Experimentation is best. We'll give you tips or examples of how we use it, but go with what your ear tells you sounds good.

CAn't answer any better than this.

Shape the guitar? First
Shape the lead? After the dirt
Shape the amp overall? In the loop

 

[Myaccount876]

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I put it after all my pedals, would put it in the effects loop if I knew how to use the loop on my amp haha. It is a Kustom Quad 200 and I think I need one of those Y splitter cables to use it.

 

[SongsForTheDeaf]

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some say after distortion and some say before so I will try it both ways... before distortion first as Aceman said to shape the guitar ... can it be after my Angry fuzz (pure tone buffer ) and whammy 5 though ?

 

[erksin]

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I heard EQ pedals can stop feedback but can they cut out guitar grounding hum aswell ? just curious

The reason they are able to kill feedback is that they can remove the particular oscillating frequency from the signal. It really doesn't have any magical properties - it's just subtracting.

It won't do anything about hum in my experience. Is this a grounding issue with the guitar or a crappy cable or a ground loop issue with the amp?

 

[SongsForTheDeaf]

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The reason they are able to kill feedback is that they can remove the particular oscillating frequency from the signal. It really doesn't have any magical properties - it's just subtracting.

It won't do anything about hum in my experience. Is this a grounding issue with the guitar or a crappy cable or a ground loop issue with the amp?

Ah ok, I ask because some pedals I have used in the past but no longer have made hum drop significantly when on... my main guitar does have some sort of grounding issue as I have tried different guitars with my rig with no problems... It hums pretty loud when not touching the strings and crackles when I strum hard...

 

[erksin]

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Ah ok, I ask because some pedals I have used in the past but no longer have made hum drop significantly when on... my main guitar does have some sort of grounding issue as I have tried different guitars with my rig with no problems... It hums pretty loud when not touching the strings and crackles when I strum hard...

You should go get that dealt with. Could just be a funky output jack or maybe the thing's not properly grounded in the first place.

 

[SongsForTheDeaf]

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You should go get that dealt with. Could just be a funky output jack or maybe the thing's not properly grounded in the first place.

Yeah I took it into the shop already and the tech there had it for 2 weeks and then told me when I picked it up that he could not hear what the problem was and just told me I used too much gain....... Yeah.

So anyways I'm probably goanna sell it to the shop towards a new guitar next month ... I have my eyes on the Godin Icon 3 P-90 or a Semi Hollow

 

[crguti]

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Behringer EQ pedal?.... I would place it in the garbage can. : private:

 

[SongsForTheDeaf]

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Behringer EQ pedal?.... I would place it in the garbage can. : private:

thanks for the helpful insight....

I see you running around these boards acting negative and straight up like a jacka$$... not sure what your problem is but next time why don't you add something useful...