Eric Clapton - there has been A LOT of discussion within the threads on him.
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Lewguitar
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That's right.
But I never heard that sound before Clapton made it.
Now that sound has become the standard sound of rock n roll guitar.
That's right.
But I never heard that sound before Clapton made it.
Now that sound has become the standard sound of rock n roll guitar.
blueman335
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+1. It's hard to believe that the same man playing with Cream and the Bluesbreakers, a few years later would be playing crap like Lay Down Sally. 'Invasion of the Body Snatchers'?
+1. It's hard to believe that the same man playing with Cream and the Bluesbreakers, a few years later would be playing crap like Lay Down Sally. 'Invasion of the Body Snatchers'?
leevc5
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Dang, you really do have a thing about Lay Down Sally. What if he would have never done that song?
Dang, you really do have a thing about Lay Down Sally. What if he would have never done that song?
crusty philtrum
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I just got wondering ... imagine if Clapton died in 1970 and Hendrix was still alive and playing. What would we be saying ?
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Ever hear Eric Clapton in 'The Concert For George' (Harrison) ? I was stunned at how natural he and those classic songs were together, way beyond anything that might be called 'respectful renditions'.
I just got wondering ... imagine if Clapton died in 1970 and Hendrix was still alive and playing. What would we be saying ?
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Ever hear Eric Clapton in 'The Concert For George' (Harrison) ? I was stunned at how natural he and those classic songs were together, way beyond anything that might be called 'respectful renditions'.
voggin
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I saw a video of a Clapton concert from around 2006. He did his usual stuff, but then he did a few jazzier numbers on an old big-bodied archtop. It was really cool, obviously not his comfort zone, but he was doing weird chord inversions and stuff.
I thought, that's pretty cool. A rockstar who could coast on playing his greatest hits forever, like the Eagles or the Stones, instead stretches out to a whole other musical genre. Then he did that album with Wynton Marsalis, which was really great trad blues rhythm work.
I find Clapton to be a very interesting musician, as well as a guitarist. He obviously plays where his muse takes him, and as much as I love the old Beano/Cream stuff, I can see why a 70 year-old might not want to spend all his time playing guitar hero.
I saw a video of a Clapton concert from around 2006. He did his usual stuff, but then he did a few jazzier numbers on an old big-bodied archtop. It was really cool, obviously not his comfort zone, but he was doing weird chord inversions and stuff.
I thought, that's pretty cool. A rockstar who could coast on playing his greatest hits forever, like the Eagles or the Stones, instead stretches out to a whole other musical genre. Then he did that album with Wynton Marsalis, which was really great trad blues rhythm work.
I find Clapton to be a very interesting musician, as well as a guitarist. He obviously plays where his muse takes him, and as much as I love the old Beano/Cream stuff, I can see why a 70 year-old might not want to spend all his time playing guitar hero.
Brandenburg
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some things of clapton i like..others not that much. i really love his arrangement of "I Shot The Sheriff " from the 2010 crossroads concert..
OK.. OK.. ya caught me.. I also think one of backup singers was super hot too.. In any case, I thought claptons playing was top notch
some things of clapton i like..others not that much. i really love his arrangement of "I Shot The Sheriff " from the 2010 crossroads concert..
OK.. OK.. ya caught me.. I also think one of backup singers was super hot too.. In any case, I thought claptons playing was top notch
ItsaBass
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Hendrix would have gone on to make a bunch of crap, as he was already kinda doing when he died, and Clapton never would have had the chance to become truly abysmal. I can't think of many, if any, '60's guitar gods who survived through the '70's without turning out a bunch of crap.
Hendrix would have gone on to make a bunch of crap, as he was already kinda doing when he died, and Clapton never would have had the chance to become truly abysmal. I can't think of many, if any, '60's guitar gods who survived through the '70's without turning out a bunch of crap.
SlyFoxx
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One name...Gilmour.
One name...Gilmour.
voggin
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Not from me. I thought his playing on that was awesome. The solo on the title track is solo composition at its finest.
Not from me. I thought his playing on that was awesome. The solo on the title track is solo composition at its finest.
ItsaBass
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You are trolling, right? He had barely come into the public eye by the end of the '60's, and was nowhere near guitar god status until he was making very '70's sounding music. And sorry, but as much as I like Pink Floyd up to a certain point, they most certainly did turn out a bunch of crap in the '70's.
You are trolling, right? He had barely come into the public eye by the end of the '60's, and was nowhere near guitar god status until he was making very '70's sounding music. And sorry, but as much as I like Pink Floyd up to a certain point, they most certainly did turn out a bunch of crap in the '70's.
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leevc5
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Mark Knopfler
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ItsaBass
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OK, this is definitely trolling. It's even more silly than stating that David Gilmour was a '60's guitar god. Do I really need to point out that Mark Knopfler barely made it to drinkin' age within the '60's, and didn't emerge in the public eye as a pro musician until the '70's were on the way out? They didn't have a hit until 1979! He is effectively an '80's guitar god.
I will say that Rory handled the '70's pretty damned well...though he wasn't exactly considered a "guitar god" in the '60's.
OK, this is definitely trolling. It's even more silly than stating that David Gilmour was a '60's guitar god. Do I really need to point out that Mark Knopfler barely made it to drinkin' age within the '60's, and didn't emerge in the public eye as a pro musician until the '70's were on the way out? They didn't have a hit until 1979! He is effectively an '80's guitar god.
I will say that Rory handled the '70's pretty damned well...though he wasn't exactly considered a "guitar god" in the '60's.
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leevc5
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OK, you are right about Knopfler, But Peter Green made it through and has done and is still doing the best blues in town.
And BTW I don't know what your obsession with calling everybody a troll is but you should definitely get something done about it.
OK, you are right about Knopfler, But Peter Green made it through and has done and is still doing the best blues in town.
And BTW I don't know what your obsession with calling everybody a troll is but you should definitely get something done about it.
MetalManiac
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I'm not gonna comment on Clpatons personality or the stuff he said(although to be honest I 'm not even a Brit, but I understand the paranioa).
As Far as a player,he is a master. I cannot find fault with him. Maybe some of you don't like his pop stuff, but its executed with great style IMO.
His later Blues work with the original black masters of blues is just flat awesome.
I'm not gonna comment on Clpatons personality or the stuff he said(although to be honest I 'm not even a Brit, but I understand the paranioa).
As Far as a player,he is a master. I cannot find fault with him. Maybe some of you don't like his pop stuff, but its executed with great style IMO.
His later Blues work with the original black masters of blues is just flat awesome.
Lewguitar
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Anything after about 1968. Eddie Van Halen and anyone influenced by Eddie Van Halen. Any of the shredders and metal guys.
EVH would never have developed the way he did if Clapton hadn't created that tone first.
So anyone playing through a high gain amp, THAT'S Clapton's tone from 1968 that they've built upon.
Cream was the first Heavy Metal band...although they were more like a Heavy Metal Blues band.
They laid the foundation for all that followed. That sound of Marshalls on "10" and high powered drums. It's the sound that Clapton left behind because even by 1970 less gifted musicians were copying it and doing it badly. Blue Cheer comes to mind.
But before Clapton and Cream no one played loud like that got that tone.
The Who played loud but that's not the same sound. Hendrix came after Clapton.
Anything after about 1968. Eddie Van Halen and anyone influenced by Eddie Van Halen. Any of the shredders and metal guys.
EVH would never have developed the way he did if Clapton hadn't created that tone first.
So anyone playing through a high gain amp, THAT'S Clapton's tone from 1968 that they've built upon.
Cream was the first Heavy Metal band...although they were more like a Heavy Metal Blues band.
They laid the foundation for all that followed. That sound of Marshalls on "10" and high powered drums. It's the sound that Clapton left behind because even by 1970 less gifted musicians were copying it and doing it badly. Blue Cheer comes to mind.
But before Clapton and Cream no one played loud like that got that tone.
The Who played loud but that's not the same sound. Hendrix came after Clapton.
leevc5
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Many might say that Jimmy Page had a lot to do with the whole shredder, Metal.. sound including Jimmy Page.
Many might say that Jimmy Page had a lot to do with the whole shredder, Metal.. sound including Jimmy Page.
Condemnedsoul
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Here is another dead, gone, another forgotten guitarist who was known as Alvin Lee. During an interview closer to his death he talks about his 335, his sound, and influences. I didn't notice Clapton on the list.
http://www.guitarworld.com/features...ars-after-guitarist-alvin-lee-whos-still-road
On the album's opener, the title track, you can immediately tell it's Alvin Lee on guitar—not just because of your note choices but also your sound. How would you say your sound has evolved over the years? Are you still using your Woodstock-era Gibson ES-335?
I've still got the original Woodstock 335, but, sadly, I don’t use it these days as it has become too valuable. She’s now in a vault since some loony offered me half a million dollars for her.
Sound-wise, I never use pedal effects on stage and seldom in the studio. I prefer to get my overload sustain from having the Marshall cranked up high, then by turning the guitar down to 5 or 6, you get a nice clean jazz sound. The crunch comes in around 7 or 8. What else do you need?
Who were your favorite guitarists when you were growing up?
My favorite country blues player was Big Bill Broonzy. City blues was Freddie King, but I liked them all—Muddy Waters, John Lee Hooker, Ralph Willis, Lonnie Johnson, Brownie McGhee and the three Kings, B.B., Albert and Freddie. Jazz-wise, I listened to Django, Barney Kessel and Wes Montgomery. Charlie Christian, Benny Goodman’s guitarist, was a great influence on my swing phrasing.
My all-time favorite rock and roll players were Scotty Moore, Chuck Berry and Franny Beecher, and I listened to the country playing of Merle Travis.
Did you admire the other great fast bluesman of the time, Johnny Winter?
Strangely enough, I wasn't into fast guitarists. I preferred Peter Green’s subtle touch. I saw him with John Mayall’s Bluesbreakers at the Marquee Club in London and was very impressed. He was the only guitarist I've ever seen to turn the volume control on his guitar down during a solo.
Here is another dead, gone, another forgotten guitarist who was known as Alvin Lee. During an interview closer to his death he talks about his 335, his sound, and influences. I didn't notice Clapton on the list.
http://www.guitarworld.com/features...ars-after-guitarist-alvin-lee-whos-still-road
On the album's opener, the title track, you can immediately tell it's Alvin Lee on guitar—not just because of your note choices but also your sound. How would you say your sound has evolved over the years? Are you still using your Woodstock-era Gibson ES-335?
I've still got the original Woodstock 335, but, sadly, I don’t use it these days as it has become too valuable. She’s now in a vault since some loony offered me half a million dollars for her.
Sound-wise, I never use pedal effects on stage and seldom in the studio. I prefer to get my overload sustain from having the Marshall cranked up high, then by turning the guitar down to 5 or 6, you get a nice clean jazz sound. The crunch comes in around 7 or 8. What else do you need?
Who were your favorite guitarists when you were growing up?
My favorite country blues player was Big Bill Broonzy. City blues was Freddie King, but I liked them all—Muddy Waters, John Lee Hooker, Ralph Willis, Lonnie Johnson, Brownie McGhee and the three Kings, B.B., Albert and Freddie. Jazz-wise, I listened to Django, Barney Kessel and Wes Montgomery. Charlie Christian, Benny Goodman’s guitarist, was a great influence on my swing phrasing.
My all-time favorite rock and roll players were Scotty Moore, Chuck Berry and Franny Beecher, and I listened to the country playing of Merle Travis.
Did you admire the other great fast bluesman of the time, Johnny Winter?
Strangely enough, I wasn't into fast guitarists. I preferred Peter Green’s subtle touch. I saw him with John Mayall’s Bluesbreakers at the Marquee Club in London and was very impressed. He was the only guitarist I've ever seen to turn the volume control on his guitar down during a solo.